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Ilovechoo, I'm sorry you are feeling this way. There's nothing wrong with it, first of all. I think a lot of women feel the same way (and probably a fair number of men), but they won't / can't admit it, even to themselves sometimes. Several years ago, when I was in the corporate world, a co-worker of mine said she just wanted to be married and supported. She said the novelty had worn off of having to earn her living. And I can totally relate to that.


I'm in a slightly different situation, because I still work, but I own my own business and work (most days) from home. I enjoy what I do overall, but like anything, there are some less-fun aspects to it. DH supports us with his income, and he never gives me a hard time about my lack of financial contributions - the money I earn with my business, thus far, goes back into my business. I carry some of the smaller household bills but that's about it so far. And even though I'm working, the income discrepancy makes me feel guilty sometimes, like I'm not doing my part. I think I'd go out of my mind just "being" at home, unless we had unlimited funds and I could take classes, or do other things than just hang out. After all, there's a limit to how much shopping any woman can truly do...or at least, this woman. It's a high threshold, but it does exist. *s*


I understand what you are saying about the social anxiety and shyness. I spent most of my life being so agonizingly shy that I often couldn't even look people in the eye. I'm past most of that now, but some still lingers. Therapy helped some, and I also worked really hard on myself to change and be more outgoing. I'm still definitely an introvert, but I can function much better socially now. In fact, when I tell people I'm introverted, they start laughing. But it's still true - I function better with a fair amount of alone time, or personal downtime. I love working from home because it allows me a LOT of quiet time - friends always say they couldn't do it because they need the interaction from others - but I am happy that way and it's good for DH too because by the time he gets home from work, I'm glad to have someone to interact with. When I was working a regular job, I was often drained by the daily interactions and needed more "recharging" time at home, so he had to give me more space.


I have found counselors in the past by calling my ins. co. and asking for recommendations. They usually give me 3-5 and I call the numbers, and usually end up with whomever has the nicest voice on their voicemail. It's an inexact system, and it doesn't always bring up a winner the first time, but I just keep trying until I find someone who works for me. Don't be afraid to go see someone. I've learned amazing things about myself through counseling, and been given many good suggestions that have helped me. I hope you will find the courage to go because it can be a very positive experience.


One of the other major bonuses for me with working from home is that for the most part, *I* set my own schedule. I'm a lot like MissMee in that I HATED having to be *somewhere* at *some specific time* and do specific things for someone else. I like a lot of autonomy and am self-directed enough (mostly!) to know what needs to be done for my business and manage to get it done. I love not dealing with traffic daily and when I DO have appointments or things I must do for the business, it's less grating because I set my own goals and I view the less-fun things as necessary steps to achieve those goals. Where in someone else's company, the goals were set for me and I didn't always like that. I also have a chronic illness, and the schedule most of my days according to my pain fluctuations - more in the a.m., less in the p.m., which I couldn't necessarily do at a regular job.


I am fortunate that DH has always supported my endeavors and never grumped about the sacrifices (like where we live, how much less disposable income we have, and that I am often working w/ends when he's at home). Have you sat down and really seriously talked with your DH about your wants/needs? I think if I had just been saying, "Oh, I really don't want to go to work anymore" when I was corporate, DH might not have been quite so supportive...not to imply that's how you're approaching it, but if he understood that you truly weren't fulfilled at your career and that a change, even if it took you to part time, would make you happier overall, hopefully he'd be behind that, esp. if money really isn't an issue...


One other thing DH really likes about my working from home is that I run the bulk of our errands, do the bulk of our chores (he does bathroom floors and outside (lawn) chores, plus any home repairs he can do, though I help out with those as I can), and am home for things like cable installation, etc. It's a little lopsided because I work more hours now than I did before, but he's bringing in way more earnings than I am right now, and again...I have that freedom that he doesn't, so I don't mind. Though I think the biz might be financing a maid service this year...finally! Your own DH might be surprised if you end up working part time and can take over some things because of that - when we both had outside jobs, the chores & stuff were more evenly divided. Oops, just read that you do more chores anyway. But maybe he'd appreciate that you are able to handle them better if you aren't working full time...?


Well...I'm actually at an outside job right now, and am distracted (I do some other things besides running my biz for additional income), so I hope this is somewhat coherent. And I hope you two can find some resolution to this, so that you can be happier with your life. *hugs*


 


 



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I never, ever thought I would want to be a woman who didn't want to work and wanted to stay home - then I met the guy I plan to marry.  We started to talk about our future and when we have kids, etc.  He actually told me he hopes that I can stay home w/our kids and maybe when they're a little older I can go to work part-time doing something I really enjoy.  Right now, I help out his mother at fashion shows (which is what she does part-time along w/working retail 2 nights a week) - I'd love to do what she does.  She got to raise her kids, but her life has remained fulfilled.  I, now, totally want to be able to get married, have kids, and stay home for a while.  I used to worry that I would miss out on the social contact work brings, but I know myself enough to know that I wouldn't let myself lose touch.  I don't think you are lazy AT ALL for wanting to do this.  I work 8-5, 5 days a week and I hate it.  I make really great money, and have potential to make even more since I'm only 25, but I don't want to be one of those people who lives to work - that's not me.  I'd much rather enjoy my life.  Like Elle said, I've just never found a career/job that clicked w/me where I thought "yes, I'm destined to be this in my life".


I agree w/the other girls suggestion of trying to talk to DH and explaining the benefit you could provide for him by staying at home. 


Good luck to you and keep us posted



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i never EVER pictured myself not working. i loved school and couldn't wait to graduate and get a fantastic and kick-ass job. my first job was less than spectacular. too corporate and mind-numbing actually. so after i put in some years there i made the move to the opposite end of the spectrum. totally free, creative, inspiring environment with a loose, come-and-leave-as-you-please policy. in the end it completely exhausted me. 70+ hours with no overtime pay... it was sucking the life out of me. i wanted nothing more that to get up and leave and never go back. luckily the breaking point for me came as i was due with baby so the choice to quit was an easy one to make. i'd be so extremely busy with a newborn that i wouldn't have to worry about what i was going to do with myself all day. obviously this isn't your situation, but if you can find it in yourself to be completely fulfilled by staying at home, by all means try it. i cannot tell you how much better i feel about myself and how much better of a person i've become after leaving the outside working world behind. "staying home" feels so natural to me (that's in quotes because staying home doesn't literally mean i stay at home all day with no social or adult interaction). i felt this huge weight lifted from me when i drove home from work on my last day knowing that i finally made the right decision. i do freelance occasionally to keep on top of things, but i look at it this way... if things ever start to feel wrong about staying home, then i can always go out there and look for a full-time job. right?

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I am very career minded.  I want to rise to the top of my company (or another).  I am extremely extro-verted and love working with people and seeing my accomplishments.  In my dreams/future, I never want to stay home.  In fact, if I do ever have children (which is unlikely) I want to literally drop, have them, and get right back to work.  I know I want to have a full-time nanny to take care of them.


However, my BF (who is extremely smart... wayyyy high IQ and literally a human calculator) doesn't have the drive I do.  He is content to do what he does.  He might want to be a manager of a department one day (actually he is now, but hates it b/c it isn't what he loves to do in his industry) but he doesn't really care.  He could totally be a stay-at-home dad.  But i feel like he shouldn't because I think he is A. smarter than me and B. much higher income potential than me b/c of what he does.


I think it is completely personal as to what you decide to do.  I would never judge someone because they want to stay at home.  There are hundreds, no thousands, of women who have fabulous careers and leave it all to stay at home.  I don't understand them- but I don't judge them either.  It is your choice and yours alone to make.


Good luck!



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I just posted in the other thread about this.  I think a lot of people feel the way you feel.  I know I did.  I remember, after we had our first baby, I told my husband, "I'm not going to go back to school, I'll just work for Clinique (which was what I was doing at the time) and live happily ever-after".  He said no way, I was going back to school.  So I did.  I hated school, had no idea what I wanted to do but went ahead and found a way to finish (really, only because he  made me finish).  After graduating from college, I still tried to work part-time for awhile but it just caused stress.  I couldn't enjoy myself or the time I had to spend with my child because we had NO money.  Having no money caused stress and resentment from my husband.  At that point, I decided I had to work full-time. 


Eventually, I realized working full-time or flextime (which is what I do now) is the only way it would work for my family.  It allows us to have money which causes less stress and it keeps me sane.  To be honest, doing what I do at work is MUCH is easier than staying at home with the kids!  It probably sounds awful for me to say this! 


One big thing for me though is that I feel okay about working because my aunt watches the kids for my while I work.  This way, I know they are in good hands and I don't have to worry.  Plus, I pay my aunt and this helps her out too.


Nowadays, it's funny because I think both my husband and I realize that working is the easy part.  In fact these days sometimes we argue about who "gets" to work!  It's weird, there is always the "grass is always greener" thing but I have found that by finding a job I like and which doesn't feel like "work", I have the best of both worlds.  My kids are happy, my husband is happy (not jealous or resentful) and I am happy.



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This is a great topic and I have enjoyed reading everyone's responses.  I feel the same way, Ilovechoo.  My dream is seriously to work part-time (in my field because I do like my work and just in case something happens to him, I will be able to jump back in) while by BF (husband by the time I cut back on work, if I actually will be able to) works full-time.  I love staying home and making home a great place to be--cooking, cleaning, doing errands.  Right now, I live with my BF, and we both work full-time and I still do at least 90% of the chores (some, by choice, since I refuse to let him clean the bathrooms, but I do wish he would do the dishes and catboxes without me asking) and it is so tiring! 


We have talked about this and he feels the same way.  He knows I really like being domestic and he doesn't have much of a knack for it. 


Unfortunately, staying home is not an option for me right now.  But I think you should talk to DH more about it.  I think putting everything on paper is a good idea--how much you do around the house comapred to what he does as well as how much of a value you would be contributing by staying home. 



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i say do whatever makes you happy.  and if you don't like something, change it.  my best friend and i always say that if we could go back in time and change things, we'd be less afraid and have more fun.  so that's my goal from this point forward.  i also think it's never too late.  like if you want to be a nutritionist, why not go for it?  just because you picked polisci as a major in college, why should that stop you from learning something new now?  after all, life is long, why let it be limited by something you chose when you were, what? 19?  i think you're an introspective, intelligent woman and i honestly believe that if you really want something and aren't afraid to work hard to get it (whatever "it" is), you can acheive it. so if you want to stay at home, i know you can find a way to make it happen.  save up, talk DH into supporting you, whatever it is, you can do it!



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esquiress wrote:


i also think it's never too late.  like if you want to be a nutritionist, why not go for it?  just because you picked polisci as a major in college, why should that stop you from learning something new now?  after all, life is long, why let it be limited by something you chose when you were, what? 19? 

I think this is also an excellent point.  Maybe what you would rather be doing is anthing but what you are doing now. 

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wow! I didn't realize this question would ever have started this much discussion! I have to say, that one of the things I love about you guys- thanks for being so supportive and helping me think things out without being judgemental. I don't remember if it was in this thread or in bluebirde's that someone made the point that we almost feel like we have to work now just because people fought so hard for it before...that's so true. It's like in Mona Lisa Smile when she gets all pissed off because her student doesn't want to go to law school.


We talked briefly about this last night. I guess DH didn't realize quite how much I've been struggling with everything. He doesn't want me to stay home at this point (but said that once he felt more secure in his career a few years down the line and when we're ready to have kids it wouldn't be an issue), but he also understands better now that I'm just not the business type. We're going to talk this weekend about what type of jobs I might enjoy more and the possibilty of going to school again. I'm a little scared of that because I tend to change my mind about what I want to do ALL the time, but it's kind of funny becasue I had originally started studying pre-med in college...so if I do nutrition now its really just coming full circle. Politics just isn't for me... my opinions on things have changed sooo much since then and I'm not as passionate about the issues as I was. Combined with not really being a people person, I don't see how I could ever really feel fulfilled with any path that this is going to lead me.


And I'm calling my insurance company today about getting a replacement card and seeing a therapist. I think that's somehting that I really need to deal with. And maybe at this point its better for me to be forced to get out of the house, if I didn't have to work I might become a hermit.



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Yay! I'm glad you and DH are able to discuss further. And that he is starting to understand the depth of this issue for you. And I hope you can find a good therapist. I think it would make you feel so much better. Good for you for pursuing your options!

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