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Marc Jacobs

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I could use some advice.

A customer recently came into our store, on my day off.(This was planned). She came to my newest SA (who has only been there 2 weeks) and proceeded to tell her that she spoke with me and I gave her permission to return 10,000 worth of WORN clothing. (this of course was NOT true). My sweet new SA believed her and returned all the items.

Ok , so whats done is done. Nothing I can do about that. BUT then... she came in yesterday afternoon while I was at lunch and picked out another $7,000 worth of new clothes. She asked my SA to hold them for her until she gets paid on Friday.

I Personally dont intend to sell her anything else. I will not allow someone to lie, take advantage and in my opinion steal from my store. I just am not sure how to go about it. Should I write a letter, call her etc?

What would you do??

-- Edited by AllieGurl at 15:37, 2006-08-18

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I don't know ... at this point I might feel slighted and pissed ... let her buy the new clothes, but tell her all sales are final.

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Hmm, that's tough. I would let her know when she purchases these items, that it is FINAL SALE. Some stores only let you return so much stuff, so maybe you can say she met the return limit and for future purchases, she will no longer be able to return items. I have a client who constantly does this and unfortunately the store I work for has a very liberal return policy, really not one at all, so she gets away with it and it's very annoying.

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Hermes

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I agree - let her pay if she wants to pay, but don't let her return.

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i think the easiest thing to do would be to implement a new policy regarding returns. it seems as though this customer shops at your store a lot since she knows your schedule.  i wouldn't necessarily single her out, since you don't really want to run the risk of her bad mouthing your business in the area. i would simply employ something along the lines of returns over $100 need a owner/manager's approval. that way either you, or someone other than just the sales associates are approving all returns and making sure they're legit.


okay this may sound harsh, but for me this would be a reason to fire the sales associate, or at least give her a very stern lecture. i understand that everyone makes mistakes, but $10,000 of worn clothing is a bit much. i can't believe it didn't dawn on her as suspicious in the least way. i mean who returns $10,000 in a day.



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honey wrote:


okay this may sound harsh, but for me this would be a reason to fire the sales associate, or at least give her a very stern lecture. i understand that everyone makes mistakes, but $10,000 of worn clothing is a bit much. i can't believe it didn't dawn on her as suspicious in the least way. i mean who returns $10,000 in a day.





Yeah..seriously. And maybe your SA just made up the excuse that this lady said it was OK with you to cover her own ass?

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I totally agree with honey.  I think restructuring your return policy is in order.  A return policy in which purchases over $100 must be approved by a manager seems reasonable.  Or a policy in which the clothes must be unworn, in the same condition in which they were bought, with the tags still on also seems reasonable.  I would caution against taking it out on that specific customer because if she is a big spender and has big spender friends, then you don't want your store's reputation to be tarnished, you know?


I also agree that you need to talk to the SA.  She sounds a bit naive, to be honest.  I wouldn't be too harsh with her because if she's just a sweet, naive girl, chances are she'll feel bad about it once you bring it to her attention and it won't happen again.  If she's just kinda dense and doesn't understand why it's a big deal, then she's going to end up costing you more than she's worth and it's probably better that you just let her go now instead of letting this happen again.


I don't envy being you right now.  That's a crappy situation all around. 



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Marc Jacobs

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I really am not upset at the SA. She is new, and I have told her that customer service is always #1. She tries so hard to make everyone happy , and this woman I know intimidated her. I of course had a stern conversation with her, but she was decieved by this customer.

Meanwhile this women, just is such a liar it makes me so mad! Obivously she knew that a 10,000 return would require approval. So that is why she started her speech with " Oh I already spoke with the owner (me) yesterday and she said to go ahead and bring it in today" etc.

Of course badmouthing my business is a major concern for me with this customer. However, frankly I feel like if she is returning 10k (basicly everything she bought last year) then it isnt worth me doing business with her.

As for my return policy- I have one. 14 days, with tags attatched in unworn condition. No limit, because I feel that if the items are returned in the same condition and in that timeframe, then I dont need a dollar limit on returns.

This customer just really took advantage and lied. and I am pissed.

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When she comes in to buy that next $7,000 worth of stuff, could you be there? I know it might be your day off, so that would stink, but them you could confront her to her face. Not necessarily be extremely aggressive, because like everyone said, she might have big spender friends and you don't want to be the nasty store owner. But just enough to let her know that you're on to her.

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BTW, let us know how it turns out! I'm interested now..

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Kitty wrote:


BTW, let us know how it turns out! I'm interested now..


Ditto! 

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I agree about implementing a more rigid return policy. I would also say that all returns (regardless of the amount) require a manager's signature on the return slip (assuming that you have managers other than yourself). And of course, a manager would know to question when someone comes in telling tales of your approval.


I also think that you could change your return policy to not allow worn clothing and require that the tags be attached. You could also only issue store credit for returns over a certain amount or for habitual returners.


But whatever you do, make sure that your return policy is clearly displayed in your store, at the register and on the receipts. This way customers know that you are not arbitrarily deciding the return policy on a case by case basis (which I don't think is quite legal).



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Well girls here is what ended up happening -

After holding the mechandise for the customer for our 3 day hold policy and giving her 2 phone calls to remind her , we put the merchandise back out on the sales floor.

So she came in yesterday. She flew into a rage screaming at one of my employees that she "Demanded" to know why her items were not on hold and several had been sold. I heard all the noise from my office and came out. I stepped between her and the employee and said

" Mrs X. Excuse me, but I can not allow you to speak to my employees in that manner. What is the problem "- so she proceeds to complain about her items no longer being on hold. (no mention of course of her HUGE return). After she rants and calms down I said
"I am well aware of the Entire situation, including what led up the hold. As you and I both know my return policy is quite straightforward and fair. Obviously you would not expect someone else to recieve special treatment, which is why I cant extend special treament to you either. The return was not authorized. The hold was held for 3 days, and you were given 2 reminder phone calls. I can assist you in finding new items, but I insist that you will have to follow the same guildlines all my customers do"

So then she proceeds to act like the return never happend! She says " really , what return?" "I cant remember it being so much! Oh I feel bad. I didnt realize..."

So anyways , I sold her some new items. Gave her a copy of my Hold policy and my return policy.

P.s Added my return policy to the bottom of the recipect so all customers initial it. When I had her initial it I informed her that this protected our business against unauthorized returns, so that we could REVERSE the return charges. YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN HER FACE!

The best part is someone she works with came in this morning saying that "Mrs Z hates how boutiques have such short return policys, but she has to put up with it because we have the best merchandise."

So there it is ....

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Nice!  It sounds like you handled it in a really professional manner.

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AllieGurl wrote:


  So then she proceeds to act like the return never happend! She says " really , what return?" "I cant remember it being so much! Oh I feel bad. I didnt realize..."



What a pair of brass balls on that tramp! To tell such a bold lie in the first place, and then try to brazen it out when you confronted her with it! Yikes!


Sounds like you handled it as well as possible, though.



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