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blubirde · Chanel

Anyone else find this offensive?

Drew · Gucci

If this had been on a website like IVillage, then I wouldn't be offended because that is a women's sight, targeting women specifically. Yahoo is for any and all. The double standard is so pathetically obvious here. It's just old thinking still being perpetuated today.

How about that statistic that 40% passed out or blacked out? I can only imagine what kinds of sick or dangerous things could have happened during that time.

I really hope spring breakers learn a lesson from Natalie Holloway's disappearance and STAY TOGETHER, WATCH YOUR DRINK, DON'T DRINK TO THE POINT OF OBLIVIOUN, AND HELP ANY FRIENDS YOU SEE IN TROUBLE while on spring break this year. Any STer's going please be careful and protect yourself and your friends.

NCshopper · Hermes

While I do think that women need to be careful, obviously, it's really crappy of them to point it out without even acknowledging that men play a part in this too. It reminds me of those people who say that rape victims did something "to deserve it"--like it's always the woman's fault if something happens that she was acting outrageous and that boys just can't be held accountable for their behavior. Ugh! Parents need to be held accountable too for raising their boys to be the type of guys that respect women and treat them respectfully.

So, yes, I find it offensive.

-- Edited by NCshopper at 11:38, 2006-03-08

Hermione · Kate Spade

ugh, this is exactly the approach my (all girls) school took when educating us about sex. i should say "educating." they told us that having sex before marriage meant we were going to hell. so did kissing, touching, holding hands. you see, if we held hands, the boy would become aroused, and he would go to hell, and it would be our fault so we would go to hell too. it was the girl's job to keep her and the boy from eternal damnation.

also, we would go to hell if we didn't make breakfast for our husbands in the morning, and we were not to be around any homosexuals. oh yes, and (the questions teenage girls ask) it is a sin to make out with your husband and then not have sex. this is because the only purpose of sex is procreation and if you are enjoying sexual pleasure without the intent of procreation, you are going to hell.

(interestingly enough, though i didn't pick up on this in highschool, this conflicts with the idea of NFP - natural family planning - if you are using it to prevent pregnancy)

hm.

anyway, that was a littly rant-y.

lol.

blubirde · Chanel

Hermione wrote:

ugh, this is exactly the approach my (all girls) school took when educating us about sex. i should say "educating." they told us that having sex before marriage meant we were going to hell. so did kissing, touching, holding hands. you see, if we held hands, the boy would become aroused, and he would go to hell, and it would be our fault so we would go to hell too. it was the girl's job to keep her and the boy from eternal damnation. also, we would go to hell if we didn't make breakfast for our husbands in the morning, and we were not to be around any homosexuals. oh yes, and (the questions teenage girls ask) it is a sin to make out with your husband and then not have sex. this is because the only purpose of sex is procreation and if you are enjoying sexual pleasure without the intent of procreation, you are going to hell. (interestingly enough, though i didn't pick up on this in highschool, this conflicts with the idea of NFP - natural family planning - if you are using it to prevent pregnancy) hm. anyway, that was a littly rant-y. lol.

OMG! I heard this guy talk one time on a public access channel! Maybe he was a teacher at your school! Of course you know I had to call in and give my two cents on all the guy was saying. I was the only caller that left him speechless.

Yep, I'm that cool.

Hermione · Kate Spade

haha- nope, there's no way that guy taught at my school (girls in their developing ages can't be around men!) but that's awesome you called him out.

what's funny is that i'm a pretty conservative girl myself, but these extremists think that i am an extreme liberal *shocking!*

actually because of the way i was raised i don't know what "label" i am, so i just like to call myself libertarian

i did get an amazing education from my school that i still appreciate nearly every day, but it took me years to get over that "i'm going to hell" feeling. i just don't understand why a god who created us out of love would create sooo many (according to them) rules that damn you eternally for things like "holding hands"

Dizzy · Marc Jacobs

Hermione - we have the same background! Too funny - especially the part about the no-breakfast-means-hellfire... And yes, I think that article is ridiculous. Sheesh.

Metric · Gucci

Its interesting to me that we have a much lower drinking age (18) but we have alot less problems with binge drinking. Also we don't really have the "college life" atitude in most of our Universities so we don't really experience the whole spring break-girls gone wild-drink until you puke and drink some more thing. I wonder why that is? Are we more responsible? Is it b/c Canadians are naturally more reserved? I honestly don't know.

Once Girls Gone Wild hosted a party at a local bar and thirty people showed up. It just isn't a big deal here.

Dizzy · Marc Jacobs

blubirde wrote:

Hermione wrote:
ugh, this is exactly the approach my (all girls) school took when educating us about sex. i should say "educating." they told us that having sex before marriage meant we were going to hell. so did kissing, touching, holding hands. you see, if we held hands, the boy would become aroused, and he would go to hell, and it would be our fault so we would go to hell too. it was the girl's job to keep her and the boy from eternal damnation. also, we would go to hell if we didn't make breakfast for our husbands in the morning, and we were not to be around any homosexuals. oh yes, and (the questions teenage girls ask) it is a sin to make out with your husband and then not have sex. this is because the only purpose of sex is procreation and if you are enjoying sexual pleasure without the intent of procreation, you are going to hell. (interestingly enough, though i didn't pick up on this in highschool, this conflicts with the idea of NFP - natural family planning - if you are using it to prevent pregnancy) hm. anyway, that was a littly rant-y. lol.
OMG! I heard this guy talk one time on a public access channel! Maybe he was a teacher at your school! Of course you know I had to call in and give my two cents on all the guy was saying. I was the only caller that left him speechless. Yep, I'm that cool.

Bluebirde - you rock!

Lilykind · Hermes

Metric wrote:

Its interesting to me that we have a much lower drinking age (18) but we have alot less problems with binge drinking. Also we don't really have the "college life" atitude in most of our Universities so we don't really experience the whole spring break-girls gone wild-drink until you puke and drink some more thing. I wonder why that is? Are we more responsible? Is it b/c Canadians are naturally more reserved? I honestly don't know.

I think the drinking age needs to be lowered for this very reason in the US. It was only increased to 21 in the mid 1980s. It's the whole "forbidden fruit" thing...if it's prohibited from someone, they'll try and seek it out to see what the allure is.

I found that article pretty offensive too.

laken1 · Hermes

Completely offensive. Although I do have to say my little sister just turned 18 & she's going on her senior trip in May - I'm really scared for her. I feel like such an old lady admitting it though!

ico · Dooney & Bourke

Metric wrote:

Its interesting to me that we have a much lower drinking age (18) but we have alot less problems with binge drinking. Also we don't really have the "college life" atitude in most of our Universities so we don't really experience the whole spring break-girls gone wild-drink until you puke and drink some more thing. I wonder why that is? Are we more responsible? Is it b/c Canadians are naturally more reserved? I honestly don't know. Once Girls Gone Wild hosted a party at a local bar and thirty people showed up. It just isn't a big deal here.

Same in Italy: drinking age is 18, but there is usually no binge drinking. Getting wasted is seen as beeing extremely stupid.

Besides, in my (as well as others') family, we were encouraged since we were like 11-12 to taste some wine, ike a sip or so (I hated wine then!!!). SO it is never a big deal to be able to drink.

And I agree with Luckylili, drinking age should be lowered!

halleybird · Hermes

So funny that you posted this! I thought the same thing when I saw this on the news this morning. And of course the perky little newscasters had a cute little chuckle when one of them mentioned, "what about the boys?"

NCshopper · Hermes

Metric wrote:

Its interesting to me that we have a much lower drinking age (18) but we have alot less problems with binge drinking. Also we don't really have the "college life" atitude in most of our Universities so we don't really experience the whole spring break-girls gone wild-drink until you puke and drink some more thing. I wonder why that is? Are we more responsible? Is it b/c Canadians are naturally more reserved? I honestly don't know. Once Girls Gone Wild hosted a party at a local bar and thirty people showed up. It just isn't a big deal here.

When I studied abroad in Australia, it was very much the same thing. The Aussies would go out, have a few beers and enjoy themselves. On the other hand, if you were in a bar and there was a group of rowdy, disgusting, drunk people 9 times out of 10 it was a group of Americans, and they were probably under 21 (myself included).

I wish we could lower the drinking age in the US back to 18, but I just wonder if that would cause a huge spike in drinking fatalities and DD accidents. I kinda feel like now that the drinking age is 21, it'd be next to impossible to try to go back.

sephorablue · Marc Jacobs

Metric wrote:

Its interesting to me that we have a much lower drinking age (18) but we have alot less problems with binge drinking. Also we don't really have the "college life" atitude in most of our Universities so we don't really experience the whole spring break-girls gone wild-drink until you puke and drink some more thing.

Lone contradictory example re: lower drinker age in another country--Britain. When I studied abroad there, all the first years behaved exactly the same as American freshmen with regard to alcohol. Everyone got wasted at every opportunity. Puddles of vomit all over the sidewalk on weekend nights, etc. And that was at Oxford which clearly is not a "party" school! But I think Brits are notoriously heavy drinkers in general, so that may have something to do with it.

scarlett · Marc Jacobs

God, reading that article grossed me out. As usual the onus for being good falls on us girls. The boys, of course, have no responsibility to watch their drinking and treat women respectfully.

My parents were very strict about certain things, spring break and senior week being two of them. I was never allowed to go to either. (I'm actually glad about it now -- I imagine it being like MTV Spring Break. Maybe that's not fair but it gives me the shudders.) Anyway, my parents let me start drinking at home when I was in my teens, and when I finally got to college I only got super drunk once, and that was on my birthday senior year. I think the key is, alcohol was introduced to me as something to be savored and appreciated. Not to say that I've never been drunk and had a good time.