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Chanel

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sd passes ban, with goal to overturn roe v. wade

SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (Reuters) - South Dakota became the first U.S. state to pass a law banning abortion in virtually all cases, with the intention of forcing the Supreme Court to reconsider its 1973 decision legalizing the procedure.
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The law, which would punish doctors who perform the operation with a five-year prison term and a $5,000 fine, awaits the signature of Republican Gov. Michael Rounds and people on both sides of the issue say he is unlikely to veto it.

"My understanding is we are the first state to truly defy
Roe v. Wade," the 1973 high court ruling that granted a constitutional right to abortion, said Kate Looby of
Planned Parenthood's South Dakota chapter.

State legislatures in Ohio, Indiana, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky also have introduced similar measures this year, but South Dakota's legislative calendar means its law is likely to be enacted first.

"We hope (Rounds) recognizes this for what it is: a political tool and not about the health and safety of the women of South Dakota," Looby said.

"If he chooses to sign it, we will be filing a lawsuit in short order to block it," she said after attending the afternoon debate at the state capital in Pierre.

Proponents have said the law was designed for just such a court challenge.

The timing is right, supporters say, given the recent appointments of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice
Samuel Alito to the high court. The two conservatives could pave the way to a decision overturning Roe v. Wade.

The high court said on Tuesday it will rule on whether the federal government can ban some abortion procedures, a case that could reveal whether the court reshaped by
President George W. Bush will restrict abortion rights.

In 1992, the Supreme Court reaffirmed the right to abortion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the last direct challenge to Roe v. Wade.

The South Dakota law concludes that life begins at conception based on medical advances over the past three decades.

Proposed amendments to the law to create exceptions to specifically protect the health of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest, were voted down. Also defeated was an amendment to put the proposal in the hands of voters.

The bill as written does make an exception if the fetus dies during a doctor's attempt to save the mother's life.

Planned Parenthood operates the sole clinic in South Dakota where roughly 800 abortions are performed each year by doctors from neighboring Minnesota, Looby said.

Two years ago, Rounds vetoed a similar bill, saying it would wipe out existing restrictions on abortion while it was fought in the courts. A rewritten bill lost narrowly in the state Senate.

Some legislators opposed to abortion rights questioned whether it was premature to challenge Roe v. Wade, and said litigation would prove expensive for the sparsely populated state. An anonymous donor has offered $1 million to the state to defray the costs of litigation.

-- Edited by erin at 08:00, 2006-02-23

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this is very scary.

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Beyond scary

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Well, here we go.


Best case scenario: courts all along the way, up to the appellate courts decide the ban is unconstitutional and the SC decides not to hear the case, thereby agreeing with the appellate courts.


I feel so sorry for women in South Dakota today. I hope the drive to North Dakota isn't very long.


Honestly, I don't think I could live in a country where a woman's right to choose is no longer. If that ends up being the case (and god forbid, I'm hoping that it doesn't), I might have to rethink my choice of "home."



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ITA blubirde. I don't know what is happening to this country, but I can see being an ex-pat if it really came down to that. I can't believe this.

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This is very, very scary.  I can't believe this happened.  ITA as well blubirde, if it ever came down to me not being able to choose, I think I'd have to rethink where I live.

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That's total BS.  I don't think the goverment should have the right to say what a woman can or cannot choose to do to her own body.  This is BEYOND any pro-life vs. pro-choice debate too.


Horrible, just horrible.  If I ever say I want to move to South Dakota, someone please stop me....



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blubirde wrote:


I might have to rethink my choice of "home."


You can come to Canada, sugar. Our healthcare system pays for your first abortion.


 



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SCARY!!!  Moving back to France, or heck, moving to Canada, is looking pretty darn good.

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erin wrote:


Proposed amendments to the law to create exceptions to specifically protect the health of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest, were voted down. Also defeated was an amendment to put the proposal in the hands of voters.


That is just tyranny.


 



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That is terrifying. 

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rocky wrote:


erin wrote: Proposed amendments to the law to create exceptions to specifically protect the health of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest, were voted down. Also defeated was an amendment to put the proposal in the hands of voters. That is just tyranny.  


my jaw dropped at that line too.


who in the hell would want to carry a baby for 9 months that came from a rape?  i'm appalled and if this sweeps across the country-  i will be moving...



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bex wrote:

rocky wrote:
erin wrote: Proposed amendments to the law to create exceptions to specifically protect the health of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest, were voted down. Also defeated was an amendment to put the proposal in the hands of voters. That is just tyranny.  

my jaw dropped at that line too.
who in the hell would want to carry a baby for 9 months that came from a rape?  i'm appalled and if this sweeps across the country-  i will be moving...




ITA. It makes me so mad that they think they can tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. If men were the ones who had to get pregnant and have babies there'd be an abortion clinic in every hospital.

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I'm utterly sickened by this. I hope no one living there conceives an ectopic pregnancy, because South Dakota would rather see her hemorrage and die than end that pregnancy.


I've had the thought before, and am having it again, that I wish Americans could move to other countries on the grounds of seeking asylum from the Bush-run United States. Especially, if the abortion laws pass, American women.



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sephorablue wrote:


I've had the thought before, and am having it again, that I wish Americans could move to other countries on the grounds of seeking asylum from the Bush-run United States. Especially, if the abortion laws pass, American women.

Ha! What a fabulous idea. It gives all new meaning to the term "political asylum." According to Metric, Canada seems to be the place to go.

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Metric wrote:


blubirde wrote: I might have to rethink my choice of "home." You can come to Canada, sugar. Our healthcare system pays for your first abortion.  


my dear canadian friend...let me just say that this close <--> to moving up north. i have a good from ontario and a sorta friend from toronto and seriously....this close.


do you know why they pay for the first one and not subsequent ones?



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Maybe you were supposed to learn your lesson the first time?


I haven't ever actually tested it out, thats just what my friends have told me. I think if it was medically necessary, it would be covered.


We need more STers, Canada would be such a cooler place with you here. And if anybody needs a greencard, I'll marry you- since we can do that here too.



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Metric wrote:


Maybe you were supposed to learn your lesson the first time? I haven't ever actually tested it out, thats just what my friends have told me. I think if it was medically necessary, it would be covered. We need more STers, Canada would be such a cooler place with you here. And if anybody needs a greencard, I'll marry you- since we can do that here too.


I find it odd that an abortion could be covered in Canada, but prescription birth control is not.  It isn't covered in Ontario anyway, I understand that there are some differences in how the provinces administer health care.  I don't mean that as a knock on the Canadian healthcare system, I wish the U.S. would get with the program and develop a universal system for all to receive care.


This article scares the hell out of me too.



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I had to re-post because I saw this in the NYTimes article on the issue:


If a woman who is raped becomes pregnant, the rapist would have the same rights to the child as the mother, said Krista Heeren-Graber, executive director of the South Dakota Network Against Family Violence and Sexual Assault.


''The idea the rapist could be in the child's life ... makes the woman very, very fearful. Sometimes they need to have choice,'' Heeren-Graber said.


This is sick. Sick, sick, sick, diseased and morally repugnant on every possible level. A fucking RAPIST gets fucking RIGHTS to the child he implanted in a woman by BRUTALIZING HER BODY???


THESE PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY OUT OF THEIR FUCKING MINDS.



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that is so scary to hear! especially the whole rape/pregnancy scenario. I would imagine that if I was a woman in South Dakota, I would be moving the heck out of there.

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