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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/13/BAGH3H7DH71.DTL

San Francisco Chronicle
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Out of the retail rat race
Consumer group doesn't buy notion that new is better

Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer

Monday, February 13, 2006


While many people will spend countless hours this year lining up at Wal-Mart and maxing out their credit cards at Nordstrom, a small Bay Area group has declared it will do just the opposite.

About 50 teachers, engineers, executives and other professionals in the Bay Area have made a vow to not buy anything new in 2006 -- except food, health and safety items and underwear.

"We're people for whom recycling is no longer enough," said one of the members of the fledgling movement, John Perry, who works in marketing at a high-tech company. "We're trying to get off the first-market consumerism grid, because consumer culture is destroying the world."

They call themselves the Compact. They have a blog, a Yahoo group and monthly meetings to reaffirm their commitment to the rule, which is to never buy anything new. "I didn't buy a pair of shoes today," said Compacter Shawn Rosenmoss, an engineer and a San Francisco resident of the Bernal Heights neighborhood. "They were basically a $300 pair of clodhoppers. But they were really nice and really comfortable, and I haven't bought new shoes for a while. But I didn't buy them. That's a big part of the Compact -- we show that we're not powerless over our purchasing."

Compacters can get as much as they want from thrift shops, Craigslist, freecycle.org, eBay and flea markets, as long as the items are secondhand. And when they're in doubt, they turn to their fellow Compacters for guidance.

"We had a little crisis when Matt and Sarah had to replace their shower curtain liner and we said no," said Perry, who lives in Bernal Heights. "But we put the word out and someone found one for them. It's like the Amish -- we help each other out. We raise a barn every week."

The Compact started two years ago when Perry and a group of his friends, who were tired of devoting so much of their time and money on items they don't need, vowed to go six months without buying anything new.

American consumerism, they say, has led to global environmental and socioeconomic crises, and the only way to reverse it is to stop buying into it.

The Compact -- named after the revolutionary credo of the Mayflower pilgrims -- proved immensely popular and quickly increased its membership.

Then one couple remodeled their house and couldn't find used drywall. After that, "it all started to unravel," Perry said.

But after a breather, the group decided to recommit and try to expand its membership.

Kate Boyd, a drama teacher at Lick-Wilmerding High School in San Francisco, said she enjoys the extra time, money and perspective that a consumer-free life brings.

"It's just a relief to get away from the pressure to always have new clothes, gadgets and other things we don't need," she said. "And I find that I have more money to spend on the dried cherries for my Manhattans."

The Compact is part of the larger trend of consumers beginning to "tread gently on our planet," said Peter Sealey, adjunct professor of marketing at the Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley.

"It sounds marvelous. It's a wonderful example for all of us," said Sealey, a former chief of marketing at Coca-Cola and Columbia Pictures. "It's a crystal-clear statement about what can be done to get us away from being a disposable society."

The boom in green building, Oakland's recent crackdown on fast-food litter and the surge in biofuel-powered cars are all part of the movement toward more responsible consumerism, he said.

Northern California is often at the forefront of environmental and social trends, and the Compact is likely to garner a devoted following, he said.

"Will the Compact ever become mainstream? I don't think so, but it's an excellent way to bring attention to the reality that we need to be more gentle with our resources."

One especially appealing aspect of the Compact is its social component, members say. Fellow Compacters offer advice, moral support, help locating needed items and partners for thrift-store runs.

One couple, Matt Eddy and Sarah Pelmas, met through the Compact and got married six months ago.

But the main advantage of being in a group is "you can brag to someone," said Boyd.

Perry agreed.

"After a while you get this bravado. You want to brag more and more," he said. "I found a Razor scooter for $15 at Thrift Town. That was great, but it doesn't top the free sewing machine I got on Craigslist. The stakes just keep getting higher."

Perry, who said he loves to shop, went into withdrawal the first few weeks of entering the Compact. For many people, shopping is a recreational and social activity that almost transcends consumerism. Boyd described it as an urge to "line the nest."

"But after a few weeks the buzzing in your head subsides," Perry said. "Although if I continue to shop crazily at thrift stores, is that any better?"

He thought about it for a moment.

"I think it is."

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I love that they can buy underwear. what about laundry detergent? Is underwear really necessary then? I mean, the stuff IS machine washable...

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ILoveChoo wrote:


I love that they can buy underwear. what about laundry detergent? Is underwear really necessary then? I mean, the stuff IS machine washable...

and the fact that they almost broke down when the couple needed to buy a shower curtain!  wth????

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yeah, the shower curtain thing got to me, too.  i would have argued the "health item" angle on the shower curtain--who knows what kind of nasty fungus would be in a used shower curtain liner? gross. 

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"We had a little crisis when Matt and Sarah had to replace their shower curtain liner and we said no," said Perry,


WTF???


I'm sorry, no one's telling me whether or not I can replace my shower curtain liner.  If it's moldy and gross, please buy a new one...they're freaking $2.99 at Target, geez.  I cannot believe "Matt" and "Sarah" are letting people tell them if it's okay to buy a new shower curtain liner...unbelievable.


There are so many other things wrong with this too...so you can't buy shoes, but you can go to Whole Foods and max out your cc on cocktail ingredients?  How does that make sense?



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I may be in the minority, but I think it is a great thing to do.  I am often internally conflicted by the ramifications of our consumer culture.  I think it is great that they've decided to purchase only second hand and recycled.  Personally, I wouldn't be interested in taking it that far, but if they want to, who am I to judge?

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luckylily...ill join you in the minority! i think that this group is the awesomest! what they are doing will not make a dent in the kajillion tons of consumer waste that americans produce, but i still admire them deeply. i could in no way every do what they are doing, but again, i still admire them. i justify my buying by donating to salvation army later on. i like to think that if i was more well off (read: not a student living on loans) i would make an effort to buy earth friendly cotton and recycled plastic products but sometimes that's just not possible. my internal jiminy cricket often argues with itself about which stores that its okay to buy from based on thier business practices and environmental track records...but you can tell that too often my greedy clothes loving half often wins. but anyway....power to the people! especially the green people! earth first!

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I agree that this is a good idea. I am in no position to judge people who shop too much, but consumer culture is a big player in destroying the earth. The US accounts for like 4% of the world's population, but consumes an insane amount of it's resources (I think we account for like 35% of carbon emissions). And we aren't the ones who feel the effects of that, it's the people in developing countries who we exploit for cheap labor while we cut down their forests. I could go on and on about this. While it's not something that I could actually do, good for them.

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I think what they are doing is good, but I think they are taking it to extreme. I mean hello, buy a new freakin shower curtain, that is defintely a health issue. Also it doesn't make sense how they can't buy anything new but then go and spend as much money as they want at thift stores. You can techincally spend the same amount of money by buying new things but with thift store shopping you now have a lot more stuff.

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Kel wrote:

I think what they are doing is good, but I think they are taking it to extreme. I mean hello, buy a new freakin shower curtain, that is defintely a health issue. Also it doesn't make sense how they can't buy anything new but then go and spend as much money as they want at thift stores. You can techincally spend the same amount of money by buying new things but with thift store shopping you now have a lot more stuff.



I think the point is less about cost or how much stuff they have (note they aren't getting rid of anything they already own), but more about not creating a demand for anything new to be produced.

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Kel wrote:


 Also it doesn't make sense how they can't buy anything new but then go and spend as much money as they want at thift stores. You can techincally spend the same amount of money by buying new things but with thift store shopping you now have a lot more stuff.


in defense of the greenies, it has nothing to do with money but rather the amount of consumer products and hence consumer waste. if you buy a pair of pants from a trift shop you are, in essence, buying a recycled product which cuts down not only on waste levels in landfills (speaking in extreme here) but it also cuts down on usage of sweatshop labor in developing nations (and in some areas of the United States as well, i.e. Mexican women in textile factories in LA), and fuel emissions. for example....i have issues with coral jewelry that is new, i don't feel comfortable taking even a small part in the degradation of a ecosystem that will take years and years to rebuild itself, but antique coral jewelry is okay. it's okay, to me, because i am buying a recyled product that has already paid for the cost of manufacturing. does that make more sense now?


 


and about that damn shower curtain...just throw it into the wash on hot and it's all good. throw some bleach in there too if you are so inclined! i haven't bought a shower curtain in two years, i just wash it every couple of months. i do this even though the original was a dollar store purchase and i could easily buy another curtain for a dollar. i could easily shell out another dollar (or ten and buy a cute one from kmart) but why should i make more trash when i can just as easily suffice with the old one? and yes, i know that bleach is bad for the environment too....



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Huh!  Interesting!


I think overall what they're doing is very admirable.  I totally agree that our society has a big problem with the whole Reduce, Reuse, Recycle concept.  I think it's awesome when people do what they can to cut down on the stuff that ends up in a landfill. 


That being said, I don't think I could take it as far as these people have.  There's just no realistic way I could do that.


Also, what do they do for gifts?  Do they buy used things and give them as gifts?  That could be cool, but I definitely have family members that would not be okay with that.


By the way, I love that a shower curtain threw them into a "crisis." 



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I think this whole idea is fabulous. I could probably go the whole of 2006 without buying underwear either, as I am sure I own enough already(all purchased new of course!!). I am a mostly thrift store shopper so this wouldn't be much of a stretch. I get the message. I am really trying to reduce my own consumerism.

NCShopper, for gifts, I think I am going to try making mine. I realize that would involve buying the materials, but the idea of buying the raw materials and turning them in to gifts is appealing. I am learning to knit and sew, and I make necklaces, etc,. I do find boys are harder to make gifts for!!

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That shower curtain delema was hilarious!  I don't see why you couldn't get a new one!  Maybe I just get cheap liners, but the part where you put the rings through eventually tear!  Yeah, you can wash them, I saw it on that cleaning show.  But then you are using NEW soap and wasting water that could quench the thirst of people from third world countries that have to travel a day to obtain drinkable water!

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Cortney1982 wrote:


 But then you are using NEW soap and wasting water that could quench the thirst of people from third world countries that have to travel a day to obtain drinkable water!


no soap...just hot water will work. plus....the couple gallons that it takes to wash your shower curtain will in no way effect the water supply. individual residential water usage is itty bitty in comparison to what it takes to actually make the shower curtain. agricultural and manufacturing industry are the major water users, plus they pollute the water stream way more than any household ever could.


 


and just a point...third world is very derogatory, the term is developing nations/countries.



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I would love to know if the women involved in this buy makeup; because I wouldn't necessarily call that a health item....

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Haha somehow I doubt the women involved in this wear much makeup.

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How would you clean your shower curtain without some type of cleaner?  Soap scum and water buildup doesn't come off by water. 


Haha!  Maddie is probably right about them not wearing makeup in the first place.  I bet those ladies are very granola-y!



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