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tara t


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okay, i am selling this really cool sofa and loveseat.  i put an ad on the online version of the local newspaper.  i have received offers, but this is the best one..  it just seems really strange.


i thought that someone local would want them.  but this guy says he's from cananda.  i'm sorry, but if i needed furniture, i would look locally.


please read and tell me what you think.  is this guy a crook?


here is his first reply to my ad:


How are you doing today? I saw your Advert regarding the FURNITURE you have forsale which i am very much intrested in purchasing, So i will want you to try and get back to me with the Following Informations below which i think are Important before going ahead with the Purchase: 1.. THE ASKING PRICE FOR THE FURNITURE :......... 2.. THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE FURNITURE :....... 3.. THE PICTURES FOR THE FURNITURE:.................. So with this i want you to know that the Mode of Payment will a Cashier's Check that is drawn from an American Bank, Also i will carter for Shipping,So Shipping should not be of any problem. I will now appreciate if you get back to me asap with an Answers to the Question i have asked and also if the Said Item is still for sale. I will now hope to hear from you soonest. Thanks...........


here is my reply


the furniture is in great condition, i'll take picture asap.  i was going to ask 700 or best offer.  i paid about 2500 for it 3 yrs ago.  but did you want me to ship it somewhere?  your email says uk.com.  i am confused.  please explain how you would like to get the furniture.


his reply to my reply


Helllo Tara,
 
               Thanks for the mail, First i am glad to hear that the FURNITURE is still for sale, Also i want you to know that a Cashier's Check will be issued out to you but will be this is because the remaining excess funds will be used for Shipping the Said Item and some other items i have bought in the states and Canada. So all you have to do is to transfer the remaining excess funds via Western Union to the Shipping Company in wish i will provide with the Shipping Company details the very day you recieve the Check. I am including an additional $50 to your selling price due to the stress of transfering the funds via western union. So i want you to provide me with the following details so that the Payment will
be issued to you :
 
THE NAME YOU W ANT THE CHECK TO BEAR -
THE ADDRESS YOU WANT THE CHECK SENT TO-
AND YOUR PHONE NUMBERS (HOME,WORK AND CELL) -
 
                                       Will await the details needed.
 
                                                   Thanks..............
 
 
 
i'm thinking i'm just going to ignore.

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sounds like a scam to me!

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His poor grammar and misuse of capital letters are grounds in my book not to complete the transaction. 


In all seriousness, the grammar is so bad that I can't even understand what he wants or exactly how much he's going to pay you.  And it sounds like there's too much effort required on your part.  I'd ignore him.



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Something sounds fishy to me, I'd tell him to forget it!

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don't do it. it seems fishy, and I think I remember hearing about a scam that was similar to that. why would someone from the uk buy a couch in the us? you's think they could find cheaper there and not have to worry about shipping, no?

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on craigslist- it says don't trust people that try to pay with cashier's checks.  i cant find the page on the site that says why- but it says only sell to local users because out of towners will try to pay you by check and it will clear, and then later be declined- and then you get in trouble, not the person that gave it to you.  they do it with things that are kind of pricey, which i'm assuming a couch and loveseat would be.

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tara t


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though so.  i should trust myself more.

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Dont do it! It is totally a scam! Did you notice in there that he is asking you to ship other things he purchased from the US? Unless, I'm reading it wrong.. that is VERY strange.. It could be drugs.. something illegal.. anything.


Ignore him from now on!



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what a weirdo

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My job is to find scams and this has all the red flags. His improper use of grammar, bad spelling, from another country, seems too good to be true, etc.


Just ignore him. The way he capitalized FURNITURE makes it seem like it's a form letter. I mean all the rest of it is pretty generic and could be used for ELECTRONICS or COMPUTER, etc.



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that definitely sounds fishy.  i can't help but wonder what the heck the scam really is... so they send a fake cashiers check and get a couch for free?  there has to be more to it than that.  i can't even think like a con-artist, they come up with all kinds of ways to rip people off.

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tara t


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JoceyBaby23 wrote:

Dont do it! It is totally a scam! Did you notice in there that he is asking you to ship other things he purchased from the US? Unless, I'm reading it wrong.. that is VERY strange.. It could be drugs.. something illegal.. anything. Ignore him from now on!

i didn't even catch that he was asking me to ship "other" things !!!


i'm going to report this to the newspaper.



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NCshopper wrote:
His poor grammar and misuse of capital letters are grounds in my book not to complete the transaction. 
In all seriousness, the grammar is so bad that I can't even understand what he wants or exactly how much he's going to pay you.  And it sounds like there's too much effort required on your part.  I'd ignore him.


Exactly.

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blubirde wrote:

The way he capitalized FURNITURE makes it seem like it's a form letter. I mean all the rest of it is pretty generic and could be used for ELECTRONICS or COMPUTER, etc.
This is what I was thinking, too. And why else would he refer to the couch as said item?

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OH!!  I took a fraud class in college and this was an example of a fraud scheme.  Definetly don't do it!!

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Yikes!  Igore this guy, he doesn't wan't your furniture, he's using you for his scam!  There are only about 20 red flags here!

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It's a scam, like the others said. I get this exact email pretty much every time I post "for sale" stuff on Craigslist. (Even got it for a $30 porch swing.)



-- Edited by halleybird at 18:47, 2006-01-19

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although this does seem extremely suspect and i wouldn't do any transaction with this guy, how exactly would this scam work?  how is he scamming her?



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So all you have to do is to transfer the remaining excess funds via Western Union to the Shipping Company in wish i will provide with the Shipping Company details the very day you recieve the Check.


Does this mean he will provide the info for the company he wants to ship with? meaning someone not legit, that way they will have the $50 or whatever shipping charges after you realize that the CC is a fake? I can see that being good for them, if 10 people a month do it it's $500 a month. Such a scam.

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Hermione wrote:

although this does seem extremely suspect and i wouldn't do any transaction with this guy, how exactly would this scam work?  how is he scamming her?

courtesy of Craigslist's warning page:


2. distant buyer offers a high-value (but fake) cashier's check in exchange for your item



  • you receive an odd email (actual examples sent to craigslist sellers below) offering to buy your item site unseen.
  • cashier's check is offered for your sale item, as a deposit for an apartment, or just about anything else.
  • value of cashier's check often far exceeds your item - buyer asks you to wire the balance via money transfer service
  • banks will often cash these fake checks AND THEN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE WHEN THE CHECK FAILS TO CLEAR
  • scam often involves a 3rd party (shipping agent, business associate owing buyer money, etc)

4. distant seller offers to send you a cashier's check and then have you wire money:



  • this is ALWAYS a scam, in our experience - the cashier's check is FAKE
  • sometimes accompanies an offer of merchandise, sometimes not
  • scammer often asks for your name, address, etc for printing on the fake check
  • deal often seems too good to be true


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