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tina242 · Kate Spade

Paycheck problems

lsubatgirl · Gucci

I say if you've already quit and worked the hours and you've been paid (ie don't have to wait on another pay check) then don't pay them back. Just ignore those phone calls and requests! I don't think you owe them anything.

Metric · Gucci

The whole thing just sounds shady to me. Not keeping records and putting you on salary for less then a month? That's really bizarre.

I agree with lsu. Just ignore the calls, you don't owe him anything.

tina242 · Kate Spade

Thanks guys, for making me feel better about not paying him back. His rationale is I was sick those 3 days, so I owe him....I think his whole pay process was flawed. There were only 3 people in the office, so he was really laid back, but very unprofessional. Good riddance!!

relrel · Marc Jacobs

i agree with the others...ignore the phone calls. it does sound kinda shady the way he was going about it with the no records and salary/hourly stuff. it's a good thing you're out of there!!!

tina242 · Kate Spade

Apparently he thinks I'm being irresponsible and immature from not actually calling him back. I emailed him all the reasons why I don't owe anything, and he said this is unsettled and not a responsible or professional way of conducting business. He mentions like 4 or 5 times we're friends, and my friendship is most important, and that I will always be uncomfortable b/c I "chose not to call him to resolve the matter." Geez.

I don't know how that text is blue, and it won't change....

Sorry to b*tch, but aaahh~!~!

-- Edited by tina242 at 19:59, 2006-01-05

Hermione · Kate Spade

he's just trying to guilt you into giving him money. sounds like a boss i once had who never would let have any days off to use my paid vacation, and then when i finally quit (moving to texas for school) tried to get out of giving me the money for that vacation.

joy0302 · Kate Spade

I would just respond to his email by saying you are not his friend and are also no longer his employee. You may also make a mention that being professional most of the time does not mean being friends!! I would also tell him to use this as a learning experience and give people sick days and personal time off.

ILoveChoo · Hermes

as much as I hate to sound like a bitch, I'm going to disagree.
If I am understanding correctly, you took time off when you didn't have sick leave but he paid you for it? You can't keep money for hours that you didn't work. If you had a problem with him regarding you pay before, you should have brought it up with him then, now really isn't the time.

Hermione · Kate Spade

Actually she didn't have a problem with him regarding pay - he is the one bringing up the problem.

She was on salary at the time which is not based on hours worked, so she received the same pay she always received regardless of the fact that she took a few sick days.

If she had worked overtime and gotten the same pay, she wouldn't have been entitled to ask for more money once she quit (because she was on salary.)

HeatherLynn · Gucci

Hermione wrote:

Actually she didn't have a problem with him regarding pay - he is the one bringing up the problem. She was on salary at the time which is not based on hours worked, so she received the same pay she always received regardless of the fact that she took a few sick days. If she had worked overtime and gotten the same pay, she wouldn't have been entitled to ask for more money once she quit (because she was on salary.)

To me it sounds like she was on salary and then the last two weeks she was moved back to hourly and then her last 3 days at work she called in sick. I think we might need more clarification.

I'm not sure what I would do. Part of me would say 'screw him' and not worry about. The other part of me wonders if he could take you to small claims court and cause more problems than it is worth. I don't know, but good luck with your decision!!

tina242 · Kate Spade

HeatherLynn wrote:

Hermione wrote:
Actually she didn't have a problem with him regarding pay - he is the one bringing up the problem. She was on salary at the time which is not based on hours worked, so she received the same pay she always received regardless of the fact that she took a few sick days. If she had worked overtime and gotten the same pay, she wouldn't have been entitled to ask for more money once she quit (because she was on salary.)

To me it sounds like she was on salary and then the last two weeks she was moved back to hourly and then her last 3 days at work she called in sick. I think we might need more clarification.
I'm not sure what I would do. Part of me would say 'screw him' and not worry about. The other part of me wonders if he could take you to small claims court and cause more problems than it is worth. I don't know, but good luck with your decision!!

You're both right - I was changed to salary my last MONTH (December), and my boss moved me back to hourly my last 2 weeks without notice, and I inadvertently called in sick, and he wants to be paid back. He did not pay me for Christmas and also took out of my last paycheck another day off from early December (when I was on salary). We had no paid time off, which should come with salary.
Then he asked me to pay him back, but with an outrageous amount that NO WAY do I owe him. So I emailed him to clarify the hours, pay, etc, and he was all defensive and basically said, "But we're friends!"
I've considered that he could take me to small claims court, but he has nothing on record whatsoever...so I'm not worried about that.

Hermione · Kate Spade

until he's willing to show you exact documentation of what he claims you owe him, i wouldn't give him a dime - if you're such good "friends," then why doesn't he let those three days go?

like heatherlynn said, it would be more trouble than what it's worth to go to small claims - for him too - this whole thing sounds like a very confusing situation, and unless it's absolutely clear to you that you do owe him money, i wouldn't pay him.

if it DOES come to small claims court, well, that's not criminal, and maybe that's what it will take for him to cough up the proof that you need and maybe the judge will tell him he should give you your own financial records as well.

(i'm not afraid of small claims!)

the worst that will happen is that he does sue you (unlikely, IMO)and then if you owe him money you will pay him (that's ok) and if not, he'll leave you alone.