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This was an interesting article, even if it's a little patronizing. But it's true that our generation never had to deal with real hardship. On a side note, I always thought Gen X ended somewhere in the mid-70s (which would make me Gen Y, but this article says no. Hmmmm).


http://www.azcentral.com/ent/pop/articles/1119genanxiety1119.html#



For Gen X, it's anxiety nation



Stephanie Earls
Albany Times Union
Nov. 19, 2005 12:00 AM


If you're already feeling a little anxious about the state of the world, you might want to crank up some Nirvana or Pearl Jam before you sit down to read this story.

Re-listen to the invigorating anthems of angst and ask yourself: Wasn't it much more fun when feeling depressed wasn't so, well ... depressing?

The bad news of the past four years - and the past four months in particular - has hit especially hard for Gen Xers, the generation stereotyped as crazy-smart computer geeks, proud losers and self-righteously disaffected grunge rockers, who came of age in the 1980s and '90s.

The roughly 60 million Americans born between 1965 and 1980 were young enough to be mostly untouched by Vietnam and old enough to burrow into decent careers, pre-outsourcing.

Most didn't grow up over-medicated or over-managed by helicopter parents. They played with lawn darts. They were baby-sat by complete strangers.

They were perhaps the first generation to know want, rather than need, and to have only a passing knowledge of anxiety. The Persian Gulf War - the only major military conflict that really registered for most Americans during this time period - was billed as an efficient victory.

For a time, Gen Xers indeed seemed to have gotten off light, living in a world of certainties. They had the luxury to be self-destructive, could be politically aware without the obligation to be politically active. It was a time for guilt-free self-indulgence.

"We grew up mostly in the Clinton administration and, not saying he was a perfect president, those were pretty easy times. Everybody was making money. Everything was pretty relaxed," said 32-year-old Ed McCormick, of Albany, N.Y. "We grew up hearing about things from our grandparents and our parents, but I always felt we kind of missed out on it. All the major battles were already fought."

But then came the new millennium, and Sept. 11.

Then, the war. The past year has seen an onslaught of the most deadly natural disasters in years. Meanwhile, the war in Iraq drags on. Fuel prices, interest rates and job losses are an underscoring malignancy. We are "in a recession," as they say.

The U.S. Supreme Court shuffle could - should conservative Judge Samuel Alito be confirmed - crack the foundations upon which the generation based its understanding of being American.

And don't forget: Bitter cold is coming, and we haven't even gotten our first heating bill yet.

"I think we're in a state of constant anxiety now," McCormick said. "We're worried about all kinds of things: fuel, hurricanes, low approval ratings for Bush. We lost faith because of the slow response to the hurricane."

One of the scariest parts, said 32-year-old Karin Nachinoff of Albany, is that today's problems don't seem fixable.

"I guess I'm seeing more how broken our system is, and has been for a long time," Nachinoff said. "Many people I know have their escape route to Canada all planned out."

The perceptions of younger generations, especially those that hit cultural awareness around the time of Sept. 11, offer powerful insight, though.

"Students (in college) today have a feeling they are living in very, very difficult times," said Douglas Lonnstrom, director of the Siena Research Institute and a professor of finance and statistics.

Lonnstrom, who is in his 60s, says his own parents - the generation responsible for the baby boom - lived during much tougher times than he does.

"My father was born in 1908, and the reason we moved to Albany from Brooklyn was that my father got laid off in the Depression," Lonnstrom said.

Lonnstrom ponders a question: Which period actually was the "most trying?" He put the question to national experts, asking them to rank eight difficult episodes in U.S. history. Though he's not yet ready to release results of the survey, he said that current times - the war on terrorism - made the list, along with the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War I, the Depression, World War II, the Cold War and the cultural revolution of the 1960s.

The fact that current times made the top eight says something. Current times are characterized by limitations, rather than the freedoms Americans had become accustomed to over the past two decades.

"Right now, there's a sense that the average person is in a gloomy mood. I think that people are sitting down and saying to themselves that there are things I wanted to do that I can't do anymore," he said. "I wanted to go to the Holy Land, but now I can't go to the Holy Land. I wanted to go to France, but I can't right now. These things are impacting us."

The effects of Hurricane Katrina will continue to radiate, as well.

"The first news of the hurricane was the devastation, now what's beginning to hit people is what it's going to take to rebuild," Lonnstrom said. "That's billions of dollars. It's going to affect your grandchildren."

The question now: What to do about these new blues?

Sure, there's always therapy and pharmaceuticals. But Karen Reivich, a psychologist and research associate at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, has another suggestion.

"We're hardwired to remember the negative things, rather than the good stuff. And evolutionarily that makes sense, because if you learn from the bad things, then you can hang around long enough to pass on your genes," said Reivich, a contributor to the Web site www.reflectivehappiness.com, an online magazine about optimism. "The good news about happiness is that there are simple things that people can do despite the current landscape."

Joy facilitates resilience, Reivich said. And that's never more necessary than in times of high anxiety.

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halleybird wrote:


This was an interesting article, even if it's a little patronizing. But it's true that our generation never had to deal with real hardship. On a side note, I always thought Gen X ended somewhere in the mid-70s (which would make me Gen Y, but this article says no. Hmmmm).

I found it pretty interesting too.  I also don't exactly know which generation I fall into either.  I've read things saying I'm gen X and gen Y also Halleybird. I was born in 1981 which isn't included in this article's definition but I feel I relate more to the people a few years older than me than my brother's age group which is 4 years younger.  I sometimes feel a world apart from them!!!

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halleybird wrote: This was an interesting article, even if it's a little patronizing. But it's true that our generation never had to deal with real hardship. On a side note, I always thought Gen X ended somewhere in the mid-70s (which would make me Gen Y, but this article says no. Hmmmm). I found it pretty interesting too.  I also don't exactly know which generation I fall into either.  I've read things saying I'm gen X and gen Y also Halleybird. I was born in 1981 which isn't included in this article's definition but I feel I relate more to the people a few years older than me than my brother's age group which is 4 years younger.  I sometimes feel a world apart from them!!!

I feel the same way about my sister, who was born in 1984 (I was born in 1979)!

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Thanks, halleybird, thas was an interesting read. It's the first time I've been lumped in with Gen X though (by the article's definiton). I was born in 1967 and usually am not considered X or Y...so I am sort of in limbo as "generations" go.



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I have also read that Gen X describes those born after the Kennedy assasination up until Reagan's first inaugeration.  I have also read somewhere that it was Billy Idol who actually coined the term first....?


Hey, this isn't the first time Gen X'ers have been reportly in trouble.  Anybody ever read Revolution X, written in the early nineties?  What about the movie Reality Bites?  This was all before the nineties got good with the tech boom, back when college grads were often stuck waitressing because they couldn't find good jobs with their degrees.



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I guess I'm Gen X (1978). Maybe this is why I feel the Bush administration (my personal destructive obsession) affects me so personally. I never felt that way about bad decisions during the Clinton administration. I've always attributed it to being liberal in an ever-increasing conservative world but maybe it's really because it's my first real societal hardship. Hmmm... things to ponder. I should pull out all my "black" albums from high school and think it through.


That said, I prefer the articles that dissect the differences between Gen X & Yers and Baby Boomers in the workplace. Now THOSE are interesting. I can see it all around me, especially since I'm the youngest person in the office by at least a decade. I'll stop my tangent now...



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 Hey, this isn't the first time Gen X'ers have been reportly in trouble.  Anybody ever read Revolution X, written in the early nineties?  What about the movie Reality Bites?  This was all before the nineties got good with the tech boom, back when college grads were often stuck waitressing because they couldn't find good jobs with their degrees.

Yeah, that's why I think the time frame is so weird. Those born in the mid-late 60s actually graduated college in the middle of a recession, not during an economic boom time. Then, those like me (late 70s) graduated AFTER the tech boom. So it seems like they're really describing someone born in, say, 1975-77, who would have graduated college in 97-99, during a time of relative economic prosperity.

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yeah, i think this writer has her time periods and "generations" mixed up.  i was born in 1976, and was always told that i was at the very very tail end of Gen X, and i mostly don't identify with it at all--i think Gen X is mostly people who are in their mid-late 30s now, who had to learn how to use computers and the internet after they had already begun their careers.  Gen Y is supposed to be those born late 70s to eary 80s, who graduated fom college when the tech boom was happening and then crashed. 

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very interesting article- from what i've gathered from conflicting dates for the generations- i would def. consider late 20's to late 30's gen. x'ers.  Halleybird- i think you're kind of on the brink, but i'd consider you part of it.  every time gen. x is mentioned, i think of heartbreaking work of staggering genius.  the author is mid to late 20's i believe.  i think i might have posted this last time this came up- hb- you said you loved that book.  anyway- i think of gen. x as grunge scene, flannel un-fashiony clothing, tech geeks, san francisco, back when starbucks was kind of small, back when real world was actually good and ground-breaking- all of this might be because of that eggers book- he tried out for real world, lived in san. fran, his life just had that gen. x tone to it.  like he was always part of some start up and some sort of opportunity, but kind of bored too.  i'm not a true gen. x'er, but i def. relate to it.  i had a babysitter (agree with that line- when babysitters were complete strangers- now everybody is paranoid and babysitters are well researched) and she would draw pictures of unicorns and dragons and stuff- amazingggggggg talent...and i found out later that she went to work for Disney for animation.  This was probably...10 years ago?  I consider that a very gen-x job, haha.  wonder if she's still doing it...disney just isn't what it used to be.  it's name has eroded, sadly.  i LOVED disney movies too- i wish they would work on restoring their brand image better.

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This part is kind of ridiculous:


he said that current times - the war on terrorism - made the list, along with the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War I, the Depression, World War II, the Cold War and the cultural revolution of the 1960s.

"Right now, there's a sense that the average person is in a gloomy mood. I think that people are sitting down and saying to themselves that there are things I wanted to do that I can't do anymore," he said. "I wanted to go to the Holy Land, but now I can't go to the Holy Land. I wanted to go to France, but I can't right now. These things are impacting us.


I mean, give me a break. Aside from the issue of civil rights not existing till the 60s and suffrage not existing till the 20s, the 00's, where "the average person is in a gloomy mood," are heaven compared to the depression and all of those major wars that were mentioned. Things are depressing right now but most of us really are not actually suffering. Yes, the past few years have been worse than the 20 before them, but those 20 years were much more the exception than the rule.



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