Honestly, just b/c the press is saying it, I'm not believing it until it's confirmed on the show in an episode. There have been so many other red herrings out there, that this could be one of them. There is no official confirmation as of yet.
NylaBelle wrote: Euthanized US Marshal after a botched mercy killing attempt by Sawyer Did anyone else realize that he euthanized the Marshall?? I never knew that!!! In that scene you see Jack go back in the tent after Sawyer shot the Marshall in the lung. I *think* that Jack then suffocates the guy because you see him walking out of the tent later looking upset.
Yeah, but don't they show Jack with the Marshall as he dies?? It's been a while since I've seen that episode. I'll have to rewatch.
fairlight wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-11-10-lost-death_x.htm Honestly, just b/c the press is saying it, I'm not believing it until it's confirmed on the show in an episode. There have been so many other red herrings out there, that this could be one of them. There is no official confirmation as of yet. -- Edited by NylaBelle at 10:55, 2005-11-10
agreed, plus she got dropped from X-Men 3, so she has all that free time now
After last night's episode I really hope it's not Shannon who died. One thing I noticed, she said she was 18 when her dad died and if she's 20 now, it means that Jack married his patient Sarah and then somehow that marriage ended within those 2 years. Pretty fast. I agree that it's unclear who died, and my guess is it will end up being Cindy.
After last night's episode I really hope it's not Shannon who died. One thing I noticed, she said she was 18 when her dad died and if she's 20 now, it means that Jack married his patient Sarah and then somehow that marriage ended within those 2 years. Pretty fast. I agree that it's unclear who died, and my guess is it will end up being Cindy.
Yeah, there seemed to be some timing descrepancies. But then again, we see that Shannon has a background as a performer and they aren't always honest about their age.
True -- the writer who did the show update at the Entertainment Weekly said exactly the same thing about performers lying about their age. Also, he had some interesting theories on Libby being an "Other" too:
The Tailies and their new friends, Michael, Jin, and Sawyer, were hiking towards Forward-Section camp when they came upon a steep embankment. They began to scale the rise, dragging Sawyer (feverish from his gunshot wound) on a makeshift stretcher. Bringing up the rear of their little caravan were Libby and Cindy. Now here's where things get interesting: By the time they reached the top of the ridge, Cindy was gone, presumably ''taken'' by the Others. How did this happen?
With Libby's help.
I'm calling it: Libby's a plant. She's the Ethan of the Tailies' camp.
First off, go to the tape. Libby's the last one to interact with Cindy. And Cindy's carrying a large blue knapsack. By the time they've climbed to the top, Libby's carrying the knapsack. You're telling me she took the knapsack from Cindy and then proceeded to forget all about her? This is a ridge, not K-2 — you don't just ''lose'' people like that. Also notable: Cindy hands Libby a walking stick of some sort, just before we lose track of her completely. As this handoff takes place, we see a cavelike opening in the background, right where Cindy's about to pass. And it looks as if there's some sort of shape inside.
But here's my best evidence of Libby's treachery: Tonight, she told Sawyer she's a clinical psychologist. Well, who appears to have designed this tropical house of horrors, according to a certain orientation video? A team of clinical psychologists, that's who. Coincidence? What do you think? Is there such a thing as coincidence in the world of television drama? Consult the little Locke on your left shoulder (as opposed to the tiny Jack on your right).
Also, the article is a little ambiguous, imo, with the convenient use of journalism tactics like inserting a partial quote instead of the direct quote. Red herrings, I tell you!!!
True -- the writer who did the show update at the Entertainment Weekly said exactly the same thing about performers lying about their age. Also, he had some interesting theories on Libby being an "Other" too: The Tailies and their new friends, Michael, Jin, and Sawyer, were hiking towards Forward-Section camp when they came upon a steep embankment. They began to scale the rise, dragging Sawyer (feverish from his gunshot wound) on a makeshift stretcher. Bringing up the rear of their little caravan were Libby and Cindy. Now here's where things get interesting: By the time they reached the top of the ridge, Cindy was gone, presumably ''taken'' by the Others. How did this happen? With Libby's help. I'm calling it: Libby's a plant. She's the Ethan of the Tailies' camp. First off, go to the tape. Libby's the last one to interact with Cindy. And Cindy's carrying a large blue knapsack. By the time they've climbed to the top, Libby's carrying the knapsack. You're telling me she took the knapsack from Cindy and then proceeded to forget all about her? This is a ridge, not K-2 — you don't just ''lose'' people like that. Also notable: Cindy hands Libby a walking stick of some sort, just before we lose track of her completely. As this handoff takes place, we see a cavelike opening in the background, right where Cindy's about to pass. And it looks as if there's some sort of shape inside. But here's my best evidence of Libby's treachery: Tonight, she told Sawyer she's a clinical psychologist. Well, who appears to have designed this tropical house of horrors, according to a certain orientation video? A team of clinical psychologists, that's who. Coincidence? What do you think? Is there such a thing as coincidence in the world of television drama? Consult the little Locke on your left shoulder (as opposed to the tiny Jack on your right).
scarlett wrote: True -- the writer who did the show update at the Entertainment Weekly said exactly the same thing about performers lying about their age. Also, he had some interesting theories on Libby being an "Other" too: The Tailies and their new friends, Michael, Jin, and Sawyer, were hiking towards Forward-Section camp when they came upon a steep embankment. They began to scale the rise, dragging Sawyer (feverish from his gunshot wound) on a makeshift stretcher. Bringing up the rear of their little caravan were Libby and Cindy. Now here's where things get interesting: By the time they reached the top of the ridge, Cindy was gone, presumably ''taken'' by the Others. How did this happen? With Libby's help. I'm calling it: Libby's a plant. She's the Ethan of the Tailies' camp. First off, go to the tape. Libby's the last one to interact with Cindy. And Cindy's carrying a large blue knapsack. By the time they've climbed to the top, Libby's carrying the knapsack. You're telling me she took the knapsack from Cindy and then proceeded to forget all about her? This is a ridge, not K-2 — you don't just ''lose'' people like that. Also notable: Cindy hands Libby a walking stick of some sort, just before we lose track of her completely. As this handoff takes place, we see a cavelike opening in the background, right where Cindy's about to pass. And it looks as if there's some sort of shape inside. But here's my best evidence of Libby's treachery: Tonight, she told Sawyer she's a clinical psychologist. Well, who appears to have designed this tropical house of horrors, according to a certain orientation video? A team of clinical psychologists, that's who. Coincidence? What do you think? Is there such a thing as coincidence in the world of television drama? Consult the little Locke on your left shoulder (as opposed to the tiny Jack on your right). Ahhhhhh Scarlett, that's brilliant!!
I believe that this was a quote from the Entertainment Weekly article. Correct me if I'm wrong.
NylaBelle wrote: I believe that this was a quote from the Entertainment Weekly article. Correct me if I'm wrong. Hee hee! You're right!!
But it is still a brilliant observation, nonetheless. I'm completely convinced that Libby is an Other. Especially b/c on the ABC site, she has no last name!
jj wrote: NylaBelle wrote: I believe that this was a quote from the Entertainment Weekly article. Correct me if I'm wrong. Hee hee! You're right!! But it is still a brilliant observation, nonetheless. I'm completely convinced that Libby is an Other. Especially b/c on the ABC site, she has no last name!
If you look on the ABC site, Kate doesn't have a last name either.
On a totally superficial note, how TERRIBLE was Boone's hair last night in the flashbacks?!?!?! It was SOOOOOOOOOO bad, I cringed!
And on another hair note, does it bug anyone else that AL will not brush the hair out of her face. Throughout the entire show she had these weird pieces of hair falling in her eyes. It was driving me nuts!
If you look on the ABC site, Kate doesn't have a last name either. On a totally superficial note, how TERRIBLE was Boone's hair last night in the flashbacks?!?!?! It was SOOOOOOOOOO bad, I cringed! And on another hair note, does it bug anyone else that AL will not brush the hair out of her face. Throughout the entire show she had these weird pieces of hair falling in her eyes. It was driving me nuts!
I don't know if we know her real last name. We've heard Kate Ryan, Kathryn Dodd and one other one I think. One the Oceanic Site, I believe it's listed as Kate Ryan.
Boone's hair was an atrocity!! It was a mullet!! And was he wearing...eyeliner?
I just hate everything about AL. Everything. jer voice, her facial expressions, her attitude. I want Sayid to go crazy on her so that we no longer have to put up with her.
On a totally superficial note, how TERRIBLE was Boone's hair last night in the flashbacks?!?!?! It was SOOOOOOOOOO bad, I cringed! And on another hair note, does it bug anyone else that AL will not brush the hair out of her face. Throughout the entire show she had these weird pieces of hair falling in her eyes. It was driving me nuts!
LOL! I meant to mention that too!
Nyla-I just had to post a pic so I don't keep picturing the wrong girl when Cindy or Libby come up in a post, lol. I'm horrible with names! I'm like crap, are they talking about the girl from the Drew Carry show, or the girl with the short brown hair?
NylaBelle wrote: I'm completely convinced that Libby is an Other. Especially b/c on the ABC site, she has no last name!
Not that I'm denying that Libby is an Other, but I don't think having or not having a last name has anything to do with it. Ethan had a last name and he was an Other.
NylaBelle wrote: I'm completely convinced that Libby is an Other. Especially b/c on the ABC site, she has no last name! Not that I'm denying that Libby is an Other, but I don't think having or not having a last name has anything to do with it. Ethan had a last name and he was an Other.
I don't think Ethan was his real name. I think he made that one up. No proof of this, but just b/c of the anagram thing, I think it may have been an alias.
jj wrote: NylaBelle wrote: I believe that this was a quote from the Entertainment Weekly article. Correct me if I'm wrong. Hee hee! You're right!!
Yes, that was a quote from Entertainment Weekly, but I appreciate the compliment about my brilliance all the same!
I re-watched the end to see if I could spot any of the same things and he's right, Cindy did hand off a walking stick to Libby, but I think Libby had the same backpack on the whole time. It is totally disingenous that Libby would be all shocked that Cindy was gone when Cindy was right behind her. The idea that she could be an "Other" never occurred to me before reading it in this thread today, but now it makes total sense. I did see some kind of shape in that dark hole thing they walked by too, but could not tell at all what it was. Damn, this show is so good!
jj wrote: NylaBelle wrote: I believe that this was a quote from the Entertainment Weekly article. Correct me if I'm wrong. Hee hee! You're right!! Yes, that was a quote from Entertainment Weekly, but I appreciate the compliment about my brilliance all the same! I re-watched the end to see if I could spot any of the same things and he's right, Cindy did hand off a walking stick to Libby, but I think Libby had the same backpack on the whole time. It is totally disingenous that Libby would be all shocked that Cindy was gone when Cindy was right behind her. The idea that she could be an "Other" never occurred to me before reading it in this thread today, but now it makes total sense. I did see some kind of shape in that dark hole thing they walked by too, but could not tell at all what it was. Damn, this show is so good!
Yeah, I want to rewatch for the shadowy figure and the backpack. I did notice the stick hand off last night, but I didn't notice the rest of it. I agree, what a good show!
I like Shannon a lot more now, too, but I am gonna be mad if it is Cindy who goes. Am I the only one who didn't know Cindy existed until they said, "Where's Cindy?"
Those who think Shannon's death is a red herring, do you think this quote is just a ruse? It says she was written out of the show.
Maggie Grace, who played Shannon, was "really awesome" about being written out of the show, says executive producer Carlton Cuse.
Also, does anyone remember if Walt was all wet during the last scene in the jungle? I know he was dripping wet in Shannon's other sightings, but can't remember the last one. If so, it would def. point to him being a projection, because they were quite a way from the water.
I am trying to figure out if Ethan Rom is also a reference to Wharton's Ethan Frome -- one of the major themes of ET is "society and morality as obstacles to the fulfillment of desire" which fits in nicely with all the Thomas Hobbes philosophy in this show.
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Also, does anyone remember if Walt was all wet during the last scene in the jungle? I know he was dripping wet in Shannon's other sightings, but can't remember the last one. If so, it would def. point to him being a projection, because they were quite a way from the water.
It was raining in that last scene. He was wet, but so was everyone else.