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sephorablue · Marc Jacobs

RE: Lost 10/5

kenzie · Chanel

sephorablue wrote:

cat wrote: I missed it last night and have a few questions. where did this orientation video from?who showed it ?was it in a flashback? What Happend to Kate? Is this Dharma Initiative conected with The I-ching symbol that was on the shark last week? Ooh, I would try to explain but it would take too long... if you go to abc.com you can go to the show web site, where they have recaps. But the logo on the shark IS the dharma initiative logo! My BF didn't believe me when I told him I saw a logo on the shark, but it's totally there... and it's the same thing.

Yes, it is, but it's not from Station 3 The Swan (the hatch). It's from a different station. If you look at the logo, it's still Dharma, but slightly different, indicating a different station.

blubirde · Chanel

Okay, I can finally partake in the Lost discussion since I watched it last night. (Had to wait for the boy.)

So I totally didn't want Jack to push the button. Why would he push it? Because he knew Desmond "in another life"? Silly - who cares? Let the button lapse. I love Sayid. He's the rational one. He's like: I don't care what the button does, all I know is that I have to fix something and I have a timer.

I mean really! What's going to happen if they don't push the button? The silo thing will explode? The island will sink into the ocean? The world will erupt? It makes no sense.

But you know what's cool? Hurley is all for NOT pushing the button b/c it uses his "magic" numbers, which is a total faith-based thing. So whether they're pushing the button or not pushing the button, it's still based on faith, at least to some people.

I bet the other Losties are going to be psyched to take a shower and have some candybars. But I wonder if they'll only get to do it on their shift? That seems fair. Or maybe a partnered shift. One partner gets to shower and eat and sleep in the bed. The other has to push the button. Then they switch. (Okay, this has nothing to do with theory and I'm such a nerd that I'm actually wondering the logistics of button duty. )

kenzie · Chanel

blubirde wrote:

Okay, I can finally partake in the Lost discussion since I watched it last night. (Had to wait for the boy.) So I totally didn't want Jack to push the button. Why would he push it? Because he knew Desmond "in another life"? Silly - who cares? Let the button lapse. I love Sayid. He's the rational one. He's like: I don't care what the button does, all I know is that I have to fix something and I have a timer. I mean really! What's going to happen if they don't push the button? The silo thing will explode? The island will sink into the ocean? The world will erupt? It makes no sense. But you know what's cool? Hurley is all for NOT pushing the button b/c it uses his "magic" numbers, which is a total faith-based thing. So whether they're pushing the button or not pushing the button, it's still based on faith, at least to some people. I bet the other Losties are going to be psyched to take a shower and have some candybars. But I wonder if they'll only get to do it on their shift? That seems fair. Or maybe a partnered shift. One partner gets to shower and eat and sleep in the bed. The other has to push the button. Then they switch. (Okay, this has nothing to do with theory and I'm such a nerd that I'm actually wondering the logistics of button duty. )

Bwahaha!! I was thinking the same thing about the shifts. Hilarious. We can be nerds together.

Sayid freaking rocks! I love him, too. Locke has his undies all in a bunch, Jack is running through the forest chasing Desmond, Hurley is sweating bullets about the numbers and Sayid is just like, "shut up, i'll fix it in time, you crazies." Love. it.

I didn't want Jack to push the button either, but it's all about symbolism. If he hadn't pushed the button, the whole faith/science thing would be deflated. He's starting to believe (as foreshadowed by Locke's statement, "yes you do (believe), you just don't know it yet").

cc · Marc Jacobs

I'm starting to fear that this show has jumped the shark (no pun intended). I guess they had to start explaining all the weirdness at some point but I thought that video was ridiculous and comical.

Oh and about the Ana-Lucia thing - It basically just seemed that she is in cahoots with "the Others" and was thrown down there and told to pretend to be a fellow prisoner so that she could get information from them. When the guy pulled them up he asked "What happened? Who are they?" So maybe she was really alone on the island for all that time and ran into those people at some point and they used her to find out who the 3 survivors are, or she just made up that story about being alone in order to gain the trust and sympathy of the 3 guys.

I hope those people aren't supposed to be from the tail section. It seems kind of dopey to have one group of survivors randomly become violent and evil. Sure the group on the beach would be wary if strangers showed up and maybe they would even initially lock them up but once they found out the strangers were fellow survivors there's no way they would continue to hold them prisoner. Also as halleybird pointed out it would set up Lord of the Flies situation and that strikes me as a bit unoriginal and boring.

I'd prefer if The Others were victims of some other accident. Like maybe something to do with the Nigerian drug dealers. I read on another board that supposedly Ana-Lucia is the only survivor from the tail but the clothes on the other people looked fairly modern and not totally ragged which implies that they haven't been on the island for very long.

Ugh I'm so frustrated because I liked last season a lot but I'm not liking some of the turns the show is taking.

kenzie · Chanel

cc wrote:

I'm starting to fear that this show has jumped the shark (no pun intended). I guess they had to start explaining all the weirdness at some point but I thought that video was ridiculous and comical. Oh and about the Ana-Lucia thing - It basically just seemed that she is in cahoots with "the Others" and was thrown down there and told to pretend to be a fellow prisoner so that she could get information from them. When the guy pulled them up he asked "What happened? Who are they?" So maybe she was really alone on the island for all that time and ran into those people at some point and they used her to find out who the 3 survivors are, or she just made up that story about being alone in order to gain the trust and sympathy of the 3 guys. I hope those people aren't supposed to be from the tail section. It seems kind of dopey to have one group of survivors randomly become violent and evil. Sure the group on the beach would be wary if strangers showed up and maybe they would even initially lock them up but once they found out the strangers were fellow survivors there's no way they would continue to hold them prisoner. Also as halleybird pointed out it would set up Lord of the Flies situation and that strikes me as a bit unoriginal and boring. I'd prefer if The Others were victims of some other accident. Like maybe something to do with the Nigerian drug dealers. I read on another board that supposedly Ana-Lucia is the only survivor from the tail but the clothes on the other people looked fairly modern and not totally ragged which implies that they haven't been on the island for very long. Ugh I'm so frustrated because I liked last season a lot but I'm not liking some of the turns the show is taking.

Did you see the previews for next week, where Ana Lucia takes Sawyer, Jin and Michael to some other underground area and there's another woman there? I think that there is way more going on than just that video and the experiment. And Jin speaking English is weirding me out!!

scarlett · Marc Jacobs

I think the actor who plays Jin is American and had to learn to speak Korean with an accurate accent, or at least he moved here when he was young enough to learn English perfectly. (He has a tiny part in Spider-Man 2, if you've seen it.) But I was still so shocked when they showed him speaking English in the preview for next week!

When AL had been dropped down in the hole with Sawyer, Jin, and Michael, I thought she didn't seem scarred enough from having been by herself for 40 days. She didn't seem enthused to be around other humans again, so I agree that her story was a lie to gain their trust.

Last weekened I caught the second half of "The Cutting Edge" on one of the movie channels (remember that ice skating one?) and Locke was in it! He played the spoiled ice skater's dad.

kenzie · Chanel

scarlett wrote:

I think the actor who plays Jin is American and had to learn to speak Korean with an accurate accent, or at least he moved here when he was young enough to learn English perfectly. (He has a tiny part in Spider-Man 2, if you've seen it.)

Yeah, he is. He was also on Angel with a recurring guest role for a bit. I didn't mean to imply that the actor didn't speak English, just his character.

And according to his bio on the ABC Lost site, he has an MFA in acting from NYU and also had guest roles on 24 and ER.

cc · Marc Jacobs

Nyla - I did see the preview and I don't doubt that there is "more" going on than the Dharma Project but based on the way things have been progressing I think that I'm probably not going to like whatever else they come up with as an explanation for the mysterious happenings. Also the symbolism is really starting to piss me off because it's totally over the top and I feel like the writers are inserting stuff just for the sake of having people think "oooh what does that name/number/symbol mean" and run off on the internet to research it. And ABC all but issued a press release telling people to look out for The Third Policeman in this past episode. I guess if it's just supposed to be a fun game that the writers have come up with that's fine and it obviously keeps people who are into the "clues" hooked week after week but if it's actually meant to be somewhat deep and meaningful then I think all the symbolism is really poorly done. I know it's just a tv show but Twin Peaks had a lot of symbolism and I never felt like I was being hit over the head with it.

There are other aspects of the show that I do think are really well done though. I think almost all of the characters are well written and and even when I think they are being stupid and annoying it usually makes sense (e.g. Jack often pisses me off but he probably has a doctor's God complex and is used to calling the shots). And I love Sayid. So I'll continue to watch it for the characters and to see what happens in terms of their survival on the island but at this point I could care less about the Dharma Project, the "monster" etc.

blubirde · Chanel

scarlett wrote:

Last weekened I caught the second half of "The Cutting Edge" on one of the movie channels (remember that ice skating one?) and Locke was in it! He played the spoiled ice skater's dad.

Yes! And his daughter's name in that is Kate also, so when he was running down the hole yelling, "Kate!" I kept cracking up. That's awesome someone else remembers that.

scarlett · Marc Jacobs

blubirde wrote:

scarlett wrote:
Last weekend I caught the second half of "The Cutting Edge" on one of the movie channels (remember that ice skating one?) and Locke was in it! He played the spoiled ice skater's dad.
Yes! And his daughter's name in that is Kate also, so when he was running down the hole yelling, "Kate!" I kept cracking up. That's awesome someone else remembers that.

Oh bluebirde, I love those kinds of movies! I am so psyched that you remember that too. When I saw Locke in it I was so tickled.

Nylabelle, I didn't think you were saying he didn't know English.

I wasn't clear enough in what I was meaning (that's what happens when I start typing first thing in the morning), but I was kind of wondering if he'd ever start speaking English anyway since it's his native language. How handsome is he, incidentally? Yow.

Also, one thing I just remembered: last season when Locke had his first flashback episode, remember how he was on the phone with a woman asking her to come to Australia with him? She turned him down. At the time I had the impression he was paying to talk to her (almost like a phone sex hotline) but that they had gotten to know each other, because I think he said something to her like "I know you're not supposed to meet clients." Anyway, didn't he call that woman Helen? And that was the name of his girlfriend from this most recent episode. Anyone else remember this too?

kenzie · Chanel

scarlett wrote:

Nylabelle, I didn't think you were saying he didn't know English. I wasn't clear enough in what I was meaning (that's what happens when I start typing first thing in the morning), but I was kind of wondering if he'd ever start speaking English anyway since it's his native language. How handsome is he, incidentally? Yow. Also, one thing I just remembered: last season when Locke had his first flashback episode, remember how he was on the phone with a woman asking her to come to Australia with him? She turned him down. At the time I had the impression he was paying to talk to her (almost like a phone sex hotline) but that they had gotten to know each other, because I think he said something to her like "I know you're not supposed to meet clients." Anyway, didn't he call that woman Helen? And that was the name of his girlfriend from this most recent episode. Anyone else remember this too?

Hehe...yeah, he's pretty yummy.

Yeah, I remember that. I think that something may have happened to the real Helen (his gf who we just met) and when he was on the phone with the hotline, I think he may have asked that girl to roleplay as someone named Helen. And Locke has a tendency to call people Helen when he gets disoriented. He did it to Kate last season (it was in the same episode as the sex hotline).

blubirde · Chanel

NylaBelle wrote:

I think that something may have happened to the real Helen (his gf who we just met) and when he was on the phone with the hotline, I think he may have asked that girl to roleplay as someone named Helen. And Locke has a tendency to call people Helen when he gets disoriented. He did it to Kate last season (it was in the same episode as the sex hotline).

Hmmm... wouldn't it be interesting if he and Helen were in a car accident (maybe he was driving?) and she died and he got paralyzed and that's how that worked out? Just a thought that occurred to me while I was re-reading the lost posts.

Dork, I know.

crystal · Kate Spade

scarlett wrote:

I think the actor who plays Jin is American and had to learn to speak Korean with an accurate accent, or at least he moved here when he was young enough to learn English perfectly. (He has a tiny part in Spider-Man 2, if you've seen it.)

He also has a small role in Crash & I was so psyched for him when I saw him in it! But yes, it is true he had to learn Korean... my coworkers are Korean and they always say how he talks like he learned it, not like a native. BTW, it's great watching it w/ them because I get to have all of Jin & Sun (when she speaks Korean) dialoge translated even if there are no subtitles!

kenzie · Chanel

crystal wrote:

BTW, it's great watching it w/ them because I get to have all of Jin & Sun (when she speaks Korean) dialoge translated even if there are no subtitles!

Oh my gosh! I'd love to know what they are saying!

Bastet · Kate Spade

I was away last week and just watched this ep last night. Eeek! First off, I suspect that maybe Jin speaking English happens because either (1) that clip is a dream sequence/hallucination or (2) he learned English for his job w/ Sun's dad and kept it a secret because he was ashamed of his work, jsut like Sun kept it a secret when she learned. I don't think the Island made him spontaneously English.

I don't know if that group of creepy ppl are the Others that Rousseau talks about. I wonder if they're the tail section survivors and they planted the New Girl in there to find out about them. But then I wonder why they have a prison hole. Soooo, I'm generally confused about who those ppl are. :P

I don't know why they pushed the button. The video never said that anything other than "The Project" would be hurt if the button wasn't pushed. I definitely think it's a big experiment.

Has anyone seen this screenshot of the Dharma logo on the plane in the first ep of Lost? My hubby showed it to me and I was really surprised! I thought this project started in the 1970s, but the logo is on the airplane, which means that my theory that the experiment has gone awry or was abandoned might be wrong.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=14867&fullsize=1