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jlear wrote:


I understand where you are coming from. Living in Iowa is great for the simple fact that not too many people here wear the trends until they have died down everywhere else. Even when I'm in Chicago, it seems like it's much slower to hit than on the coasts.


yup, i notice this too.  i live in Columbus, OH and have only noticed 1-2 girls wearing the cowboy boot/dress or skirt outfit.  they looked cute and not like clones of each other.  thats why i like to stay on top of the trends b/c i feel like i am waaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of everyone else in the area and i am already over "it" and on to the next new thing when everyone else is just picking up on whatever it was that had just passed through...


and i completely agree on the fact that target is pulling a bigger draw b/c they are able to turn the trendier items faster than ever before.



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I thought this was an interesting article and sort of along the same lines as this topic...


THE CULT OF RACHEL


August 25, 2005 -- THE most influential person in fashion right now isn't Vogue's Anna Wintour, Chanel's Karl Lagerfeld, or even pop star-turned-designer Gwen Stefani. She's an unknown stylist from Los Angeles who has legions of New York City fashionistas unknowingly emulating her look: a deep perma-tan on a skinny frame, long, blown-out hair, oversized sunglasses, and a slouchy, gargantuan it-bag cavalierly cradled in the crook of an elbow.Meet Rachel Zoe, progenitor of the ubiquitous celebrity magazine, "oh, I-just-tossed-this-together-for-my-paparazzi-chronicled-Starbucks-run" look of the moment


As stylist to Nicole Richie and Lindsay Lohan, the 33-year-old Zoe (pronounced "Zo") transformed her charges from chunky, Ugg-wearing fashion disasters to tabloid "style icons," influencing hordes of New York style mavens in the process. Her style is so ubiquitous that celeb magazine editors have started calling it "The Rachel.""I love it! I think it's amazing!" says Zoe of her East Coast imitators, who are actually channeling a third-generation version of Zoe's look through acolytes Lohan and Richie.


It think it's incredible," she continues, in her Valley-Girl cadence. "Every girl, from 8 years old to 30 years old, is dressing like them. I see them in airports and malls around the country."She pauses. "It's weird," she admits. "It's weird." Amy Astley, editor-in-chief of Teen Vogue, agrees - especially when it comes to the denizens of downtown New York.


"It's really surprising to see the East Village and Williamsburg hipsters dressing like Nicole Richie," Astley says. "Celebrity's been reigning for a really long time, and I think it's the ubiquity of Us Weekly, but I'm sure there will be a backlash. For super-hipsters, it's not that cool to take fashion images from Lindsay Lohan."


Zoe politely disagrees.


"God, here's a perfect example: I was just in Europe," she says. "Literally, I was with Lindsay, and the chicest women in Europe were like, 'Where did that dress come from? Where does Nicole get her hair cut?' It has gone around the world."


Zoe, who was raised in New Jersey and says she has always been "obsessed" with fashion, got her start at YM right after college - accidentally, she says. "I got the job through a friend of a friend, and worked my butt off. I did styling, market research, fashion stories, covers." She quit in 1997; "I needed more," she says.


She began working as a freelance celeb stylist for the likes of Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys and Vanessa Carlton - hardly fashion icons. She decided to move to L.A. to cut back on her commute and make herself more available to her celebrity clientele.


And then, a year and a half ago, reality star Nicole Richie - mocked for her ratty extensions and penchant for pink Uggs - hired Zoe to class up her image.


"Nicole showed up to meet me in an airport once wearing a sweatsuit, with a leopard-print neck pillow tied around her neck, an 'I Love L.A.' cap, and her hair in pigtails," says Zoe, laughing. "I think she was doing it to torture me."


It's a measure of Zoe's talent that Richie's transformation landed her on the cover of this month's Teen Vogue.Still, industry insiders find it odd that such a distinctly West Coast, mainstream, celebrity-driven look - which can be sourced in the back pages of downmarket tabloids - has reverberated so strongly in New York, which typically generates trends.


"These girls want to be Lindsay Lohan, and it's very depressing for a fashion editor," says Elle's Nina Garcia, who is also a judge on "Project Runway" and considers Zoe "a dear friend."


"I have noticed on the streets of New York a predominance of oversized glasses, lots of accessories, vintage dresses, cowboy boots - when fashion is actually getting chic and glamorous," she says. "But people want to dress like Jessica Simpson."And that, tragicomically, includes the junior staffers at Us Weekly itself."The poor assistants here are going to flea markets and garage sales to emulate [Nicole and Lindsay]," says Hayley Hill, fashion director at the New York-based tabloid.


Zoe's had such an impact that, despite her relative anonymity, she's just been hired by The Gap to promote their line of bras, and will make promotional appearances in New York during Fashion Week.


"I think they hired me because several of my clients are the people in the weeklies," Zoe says, using the classier term for "tabloid." "So that reaches their audience."The stylist says she cultivated her own look 15 years ago; she describes it as a late-'60s/early '70s pastiche of louche glam, offset by an earthier, "Ali-MacGraw-in-'Love-Story'" prepster/hippie chic.


Us Weekly's Hayley says that Zoe's influence is known around the office as "the Rachel look," - a reference to the mid-'90s haircut made famous by Jennifer Aniston's Rachel on "Friends" - mixed with "Golden Girls" frumpiness."It looks like they're all going on a cruise with their grandmother," Hayley concedes of New York's fashion clones. "But it's an L.A. moment, and Rachel Zoe has turned fashion on a dime. She's wildly influential."


Yet Zoe cites supermodel Kate Moss (along with retired Gucci/YSL designer Tom Ford) as her biggest fashion influence; Moss, in fact, is the girl Lohan is most trying to look like."We're obsessed with the way Kate looks - Wellington boots with shorts? Who else could get away with that?" asks Zoe, who makes up to $6,000 a day and receives piles of free clothes and accessories from major houses and struggling designers alike, all hoping her clients will be photographed wearing one of their pieces.


When Lohan hired Zoe a year ago, "I asked Lindsay, 'What are we trying to do?' And she said, 'Kate is my style icon.' So I said, 'OK. Let's be influenced, but let's not copy.'"Yet Lohan and Richie are widely viewed as photocopies of Zoe - especially when it comes to their sudden, dramatic weight loss, which has had its own trickle-down effect."Their weight loss - I really think it was timing," Zoe says. "It has nothing to do with me. I would never, ever, ever promote anorexia. It is a serious disease. They don't have eating disorders. It makes me extremely uncomfortable."


Severe thinness aside, Zoe admits that the look she's created is about aspiring to the idea of a celebrity lifestyle: "It's about dinners, parties, shopping, going to work, to shoot," she says.Or, if you're a New York civilian with a dreary 9-to-5 job that leaves you with a little disposable income, it's about looking like the minutiae of your daily errands are Us Weekly-worthy enterprises."It's like all these girls are from the same factory," says 24-year-old Lawrence Gega, who admits that he and his other straight male friends have a passing familiarity with Us Weekly and hate the impact it's had on formerly stylish New York girls.


"It's not fun to see," he says. "It's like, We get it: You have the same $200 jeans and $200 flat sandals. This is New York City!" he exclaims. "


You think you'd see a little diversity. But when everyone congregates downtown, everyone looks the same. From downtown to Midtown to uptown, there's no such thing as personal style.""Everyone's walking around like Stepford children!" exclaims a Lower East Side event planner named Liza. "I think it makes people feel close to celebrities, like they know them. But it seems neurotic to me."


In fact, New York psychotherapist and author Heide Banks says that when she meets a client who looks like a Lohan or a Richie, she reads it as a sign of low self-esteem."My job is not to be a fashion commentator," Banks says, "but the way someone dresses tells you a lot. When everyone's dressing like celebrities, that means they're trying to access some other life, because they're unsatisfied with their own."It's a sentiment Zoe herself gets. As thrilled as she is by the impact she's had on the streets of New York, even she admits her look isn't necessarily for the masses - and that no one is ever served by copying an entire look head-to-toe, no matter how stylish it seems in a magazine.


"I think if you are looking to adapt a style, it's great to be influenced. But the key thing is to interpret for yourself. Don't copy."And, ironically, the woman responsible for generating numerous trends says she never, ever follows them. "I don't believe in changing my style because something's a trend," Zoe says. "People are mislead: They think because it's a trend, they should do it. And it's not going to work."



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interesting article.  though i feel like it kind of places some of the blame on zoe & us weekly et. al. and i don't really think that's fair. imo even b/f  zoe groups of nyc women tended to dress similarly -- like if you went uptown there was a certain look, if you go to murry hill there's a certain look, if you go to union square there's a certain look etc.


and i don't just think it's a nyc thing. obvs as much as everyone has individual style it's hard not to be influenced by your surroundings and incorporate some of what you see into your own attire. also i think in many ways clothing kind of functions as a signifier and that affects our style, even if we're not conscious of its impact.  



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I also avoid certain things to the point where I will stop wearing something if it strikes me as too trendy. Part of it is that I just feel stupid decked out in an item that every other girl walking down the street has (sort of a variation on the awkwardness of coming across someone wearing the identical outfit) and part of it is because I don't usually wear super trendy clothes so when I do wear something that is all over the mall stores I feel uncomfortable because suddenly when I put something on that happens to be trendy I feel like a mall rat. I bought a really cute crinkly skirt earlier this summer and I only wore it twice because I felt so weird in it. Not that the skirt wasn't my style but just wearing something that is an obvious and really current trend isn't my style. I've really wanted cowboy boots since around 2000 (when Wonder Boys came out featuring a character who wore red cowboy boots every day) but I never found any that I really liked and now that they are everywhere I refuse to buy them.


The comments about lots of people dressing like trendy clones in NYC is interesting to me because most of the time when I see people wearing a really trendy outfit, usually involving a shrug or gauchoes or something like that, it is on tourists. Maybe it's because I work in Times Square so most of the people I see on the street are from out of town but I've noticed it elsewhere too. So I guess in my mind that just solidifies the counterintuitive connection I make between trendy items and unstylish and banal mall fashion. There are big groups of people in NYC who dress in a similar way (e.g. the hipsters in Williamsburg and the Lower East Side) but I never think of them as true trend followers since for the most part those people have been dressing the same way for years.

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AAAAAAAHHH I picked up the new US weekly tonight at the grocery store, and there is a big article on Rachel Zoe and her three biggest clients: Lohan, Nicole Richie & Mischa Barton! I had never heard of this woman before and now twice in one day. Funniest part was, there is a chummy, hands-on-each-other's waists pic of her and Nicole, and they look like scary California clones. Identical tans, identical skinny frames, identical bottle blonde hair with dark roots... gaaaah!


AND I saw about 15 more sets of boots & skirts at school today. Maybe I am experiencing a sort of FIT trend bubble or something... I do go to a school that has the word "fashion" in the name. Although I did also see a ton of boots & skirts on the LES the other day...



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Luckily, I don't see a lot of trend whores here in NC, but I think that's mainly because most women here aren't into fashion too much.


I think the key is to know what works for your lifestyle and your body type.  If you dress according to those two things, you'll look more at ease and less like a trend whore.  I don't really like when something I've always loved becomes a trend either, but I don't think it's reason enough to put it away.  You can tone it down or just wear it in an interesting way, so that it's subtle instead of looking like you're just one in a herd of sheep.


Just my thoughts.  I'm not terribly trendy anyway, because I find that most of the time it's just a waste of money and time.



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Yeah, uggs were huge last year in MI when I wore them and retired them the year before. We're about a year behind. But anyhow, I wear what I like no matter if other girls are wearing it or not.

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