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Chanel

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I'm curious- how have you changed your shopping habits? Has this been discussed already?

In Nyc, I haven't really changed any of my ways. I don't have to deal with gas prices going up at all, which is great. I guess food is more expensive but I"m just a family of one. I don't shop a whole lot anyway, so I don't think I'll shop less. I guess I just buy things as I need/want them always.

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I simply dont have as much disposable income, therefore I dont get to buy the stuff I wan't, but dont need. I hate it. boo.

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I haven't changed really either. I think it depends on if you salary has been affected and mine hasn't. The only thing that may have been affected is the pressure to work more from my bosses. But then again, that pressure apparently always exists, so who knows?

As for gas prices, I live in L.A. so it's just one of those costs of living here. It keeps going up and I keep shrugging my shoulders being like, oh, well what am I supposed to do?

My friend and I were actually talking about shopping and me feeling guilty about it and she told me not to because as long as I'm responsible about how much I'm saving, I'm actually doing my part to stimulate the economy. So then I said, well if that's the case, let's hit it!

ETA:  Ok so I just read over my response to this, and I feel like I sound really callous and oblivious.  Like honey and I totally made fun of this chanel saleswoman at bergdorf's who thought the worst thing about global warming is that the price of crocodile bags went up (because apparently global warming caused hurricane katrina which caused crocs to lay less eggs which meant less croc skin for bags and so the price of croc bags went up).  I literally tell the story and laugh at how obliviousl this lady was.  Well I don't want to be like her so as an add on to this topic, could we discuss what we should be doing to help the recession?  Like should I donate more to charity?  But how will that help the recession?

-- Edited by esquiress at 11:04, 2008-05-02

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collegegirl5858 wrote:

I simply dont have as much disposable income, therefore I dont get to buy the stuff I wan't, but dont need. I hate it. boo.




Ditto.



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I feel like I'm the only person in the country who isn't really being affected. Last summer I graduated and started working full time for more pay, moved into a lower-rent house, and got a diesel Jetta (which gets way better mileage than my old pickup truck). So I'm actually feeling more freedom to go out and spend money than I ever have.

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I'm buying more than I used to actually, but have to do it more carefully if that makes sense.  No more willy nilly trips to Target to pick up $50 worth of nothing.

We're feeling the pinch a bit - food is considerably more expensive, we're not making the returns we were on our savings, our house is probably not appreciating like we'd hoped.  Gas prices are making the cost of plane tickets go up so much too - it's costing us almost $1k to fly to a friends wedding 2 states away this summer, and we might have to cancel the winter vacation we planned because the plane tickets are out of control hmm.gif.



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I'm very fortunate to be able to say that it hasn't touched me very much because I hardly drive, I don't work in a field that is affected, and since it is just me and my boyfriend, the increased food costs aren't enormous. So my lifestyle is the same. Something that has affected me personally more has been the decline of the dollar's value, but I can't really complain too much given what others are going through.

To respond to esquiress, one thing that I did that is sort of related, is that I made a pledge to donate at least 15% of my stimulus check (when I get it) to charity since I did not feel that it was a good way for the government to deal with the recession.


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It hasn't affected me yet.  I haven't been out shopping much only because I don't NEED anything.  

On another note, my neighbors got two calfs this week (last year it was just 1).  Maybe they are worried the cost of beef in the near future.

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It's affecting me more than I thought it would, actually. I used to not worry too much about gas costs because my driving is limited since I live in the city. But now my gas budget is going up 20-30%. Groceries are also really soring. I used to be able to spend about $30/week on necessary groceries (it's just me) and now I'm up to way over twice that.

It's not like my world is rocked or anything but my disposable income gets eaten up by so many necessary things now that I can't even think about shopping.

Not to mention that I am the MOH in a wedding this year, so I've been trying to save for the dress, trips, showers, etc. that go along with it. Oh and did I mention all the car repairs that came up out of nowhere? Nice. So this year will be a hard year for me, financially, but to be honest, if turning down the shopping a notch is the least of my worries, I'll consider myself incredibly lucky.

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What is affecting us is the grocery store prices and gas prices. We both drive a lot, DH's job involves a lot of errand running throughout the day and I drive EVERYWHERE all day...to work-to school-back to work-to the gym or to work-to home-to DD's gymnastics-to home-back to work-to gym. We also love to take road trips, so that will also take a bite out of our wallets this year when we drive to San Diego, Vegas, San Francisco, etc.

Luckily, our jobs are great and we're both earning more than ever and have the liberty to save a lot and still have money left over for the necessities and fun things.

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I lost one job to the hollywood writers' strike, which forced me to take a job I would normally have never taken (more work, less pay, reality show...). I'm also worried about the actors' strike putting people out of work. I think I'll be able to dodge that bullet for myself, but I know many others who won't be so lucky.

I don't drive, which is definitely for the best since gas prices are skyrocketing, but I do feel the pinch at the grocery store and definitely try to shop around sales and coupon clip. BF and I stopped eating out for the most part once we bought our condo, so that's not that big of a deal.

I have bought a few nice things this year, but I don't go to the mall without a shopping list in hand and impulse purchases are pretty much outlawed.

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I have a Prius, so the gas prices are only hitting me to the tune of $5-10 bucks a month. I've always been a skimper when it comes to spending money on myself.

I'm not that interested in "stimulating the economy" by spending money on consumer goods. But to answer Esquiress' question, creating jobs or increasing job security for others strikes me as a meaningful and helpful way to use disposable income.

So for example, this would be a good time to support people who are probably affected more than you: hire household help, give the gardener a raise, get a nanny or a dog walker a couple days a week, hire a personal trainer, or even things like get the house painted or rewired, get a massage, get your nails done more often, eat at mom-n-pop restaurants instead of chains, take yoga at someone's house instead of at the gym, and so on.

Basically, look for any way to support someone self-employed whose service, trade or business might be suffering because of the economy. You might even get better rates now than in an up economy.



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Suasoria wrote:

I have a Prius, so the gas prices are only hitting me to the tune of $5-10 bucks a month. I've always been a skimper when it comes to spending money on myself.

I'm not that interested in "stimulating the economy" by spending money on consumer goods. But to answer Esquiress' question, creating jobs or increasing job security for others strikes me as a meaningful and helpful way to use disposable income.

So for example, this would be a good time to support people who are probably affected more than you: hire household help, give the gardener a raise, get a nanny or a dog walker a couple days a week, hire a personal trainer, or even things like get the house painted or rewired, get a massage, get your nails done more often, eat at mom-n-pop restaurants instead of chains, take yoga at someone's house instead of at the gym, and so on.

Basically, look for any way to support someone self-employed whose service, trade or business might be suffering because of the economy. You might even get better rates now than in an up economy.



What awesome advice, thank you. 

Oh I thought about the gas price thing more and it's also hard to notice the affect for me because I drive a Honda Civic and my friends all live close to me.  And work's relatively close too.

Also I don't really do that much grocery shopping and I haven't noticed a price increase at the restaurants I frequent.

-- Edited by esquiress at 19:46, 2008-05-03

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great advice sausora!! That never even occurred to me!

It hasn't affected me much, but I guess I'm paying a little more attention than normal so that I'm prepared if it does get worse.

I don't drive, and DH doesn't drive a ton. We need to get a second car soon, but we'll get a prius and basically leave the old car parked in the driveway until I need it for work this fall (when I will drive it a few hours away and then have it with me, but not really drive it too much). The savings on gas with a prius would just about cover the payment.

Groceries are expensive, but we have expensive tastes so they're always been a lot anyway. I have started buying store brands of a few items that just dont' seem "worth it" anymore, and I'm making an effort to go to the farmers market this year (cheaper, local, plus it tastes better!). We're also eating out casually a lot less because it just doesn't seem worth it, but we're eating out at nicer places more. (and now thanks to sausora i can say that its to help small business owners, yay!)

In terms of shopping, I haven't done much since I moved anyway. Most of our hopping has been for house related things, which I see as more of an investment anyway. We're using our economic simulous payment to buy new kitchen appliances.

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Suasoria, you're the only one who has ever made a bad economy into a good excuse for me to splurge on massages and a maid. So obviously, thank you wink.gif

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Yes, it's a win-win-win, isn't it?

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Suasoria wrote:

I have a Prius, so the gas prices are only hitting me to the tune of $5-10 bucks a month. I've always been a skimper when it comes to spending money on myself.

I'm not that interested in "stimulating the economy" by spending money on consumer goods. But to answer Esquiress' question, creating jobs or increasing job security for others strikes me as a meaningful and helpful way to use disposable income.

So for example, this would be a good time to support people who are probably affected more than you: hire household help, give the gardener a raise, get a nanny or a dog walker a couple days a week, hire a personal trainer, or even things like get the house painted or rewired, get a massage, get your nails done more often, eat at mom-n-pop restaurants instead of chains, take yoga at someone's house instead of at the gym, and so on.

Basically, look for any way to support someone self-employed whose service, trade or business might be suffering because of the economy. You might even get better rates now than in an up economy.



I like this advice. On a similar note, buying local- local shops, farmers markets, mechanics, etc. There are some cities that actually have marketing campaigns for this (Portland, ME, for one).

 



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I haven't changed too much either.  Even though I have been not shopping much lately, it's more of a natural ebb.  Food prices are pissing me off though!

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I'm self-employed - recently started my own company on invested money with a shoestring budget, and so my income is not even reliable - if we do well that month I take my salary, if not I take what the company can afford (and sometimes what it can't afford, just so i can keep a roof over my head and the lights on) - Because my lack of income has basically cut out all non-essentials - no more pedis, those target trips elle mentioned - etc, the "shopping" hasn't been affected because there hasn't been any anyway - but the groceries and the gas prices are scaring me. I live in TX and not in a walker or bike friendly area unless i'm comfortable doing that on the highway and I'm not - the food prices are through the roof and lately I've become more and more vehement about whole foods and keeping away from chemically altered anything -
I'm feeling extremely scared about this whole recession thing and so have recently listed like 20 things on ebay and will be purging my house for more.
If anyone has any other suggestions on how to save money (keep in mind that the "skip your daily latte and -surprise! an extra $100 a month!" type of tip won't work for me - I had to cut out my dear dear Starbucks a few months ago :( ) I would VERY MUCH appreciate them.

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Hermione, do you have a farmer's market or farm stand near you? Check localharvest.org for your zip code.

Food is much, much cheaper when you buy it from its source versus in a retail store. I admit it's a sacrifice of convenience in that I have to do my shopping during market hours one morning a week, but the quality is way better.

There are a couple of good threads with money-saving tips around this site, real tips like consolidate your home and auto insurance or how to keep your credit card interest rates low.

Not to mention checking eBay for everything - I think it was Ttara123 who first pointed out that people sell things like toothpaste and razors on eBay for pennies on the dollar.

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