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Luv2Shop · Kate Spade

World Trade Center

Hedvig · Coach

I've seen the previews and got very emotional, too. I don't think I want to see the movie - mainly because I think it'll be too melodramatic and calculated for my taste, especiallly with Cage in it.

I did see United 93 a few months ago and while it was obviously very moving, it was also very tastefully done and stylistically closer to a documentary, in my opinion. And no big Hollywood stars in sight.

Lilykind · Hermes

I cried during the preview trailer (which I saw no less than THREE times! Grrr...). My best friend from HS literally bawled during the commerical and then called me in massive outrage right after she'd seen it. There were a number of people in my hometown that passed away on 9/11. I think I need another twenty years to look back on it before I can see it in movie form.

You know how a lot of WW2 vets found Saving Private Ryan traumatic to watch? I think this is even more the case and instead of WW2 vets, make that the majority of the population of NYC and all those who know them.

Oh, and I can't watch Nicolas Cage in any movie without thinking "wow look that's Nicolas Cage".

I will not watch this movie in the theater. I probably won't watch it for quite a few years.

Tashina · Kate Spade

i saw the previews for this movie, and they were very moving, and i think that the movie will be so very emmotional and i think it will be a great movie. i won't go see though. i don't think it is right for the movie industry to take an event like this and turn it into something to cash in on. while i was watching the previews i cought myself thinking that if i had lost someone in the attacks, that i would be so pissed that hollywood would glamorize it into a movie. they are going to make a lot of money off of other peoples tragedy and i don't think it is right.

Luv2Shop · Kate Spade

Tashina, you make a very good point. I'll tell you what though, I would go see this movie in the theatre if they said they were giving all of the $ it made to the re-building or to the families of the victims. Then it would be like a memorial/fund raiser instead of just a movie about something that happend that is going to pay all these hollywood actors a ton of $. I would like to researsh to see if they are doing anything at all like that.

NCshopper · Hermes

Personally, it feels like it's too soon for movies about 9/11 to come out. My whole issue with it (besides the fact that families are still hurting and recovering from it) is that it's not finished yet. We're still at war with Afghanistan and with Iraq and we haven't captured bin Laden yet. To me, we need to tie up those loose ends and close this chapter in our history before we jump into making movies about it.

Movies like Saving Private Ryan, Blackhawk Down, Pearl Harbor, Tora! Tora! Tora! and other movies about WW2 reflect an era in our history that is over. There's closure there. That closure isn't there yet with 9/11. I just think that we need to see where 9/11 and the aftermath fit in with a broader historical scope before we can get anything uplifting, inspiring, and, ultimately, meaningful out of a film about it. Making a film about one particular day, as tragic as it was, is just too simplistic.

Luv2Shop · Kate Spade

Well said NCshopper.

scarlett · Marc Jacobs

I feel conflicted about this. When Flight 93 came out I thought it was too soon, and I had a very difficult time watching that trailer. And while I love Nicholas Cage in "Raising Arizona" and he showed how good he was at dramatic work in "Leaving Las Vegas," he has made too many crap movies like "Face Off" for me to look at him without my cheese goggles on.

But in another way I see the movies about 9/11 as a way of the country coming to terms with what happened, as in being part of a healing process. They were making movies about World War II while that war was still being fought.

The key distinction is if it's done well. When I visited Pearl Harbor three years ago, I remember thinking "Wow, that Ben Affleck movie is offensively bad." But something like "Flight 93" I don't think of as crass or opportunistic. I live literally two blocks from where the World Trade Center was and I see tourists from all over the world getting their pictures taken in front of the site. I don't understand why someone would want a smiling photo of themselves with Ground Zero in the background. When I see stuff like that I fear that some people have forgotten what happened, or they've forgotten how bad it was, and a movie is the most visceral reminder of what an event was like. For that reason too I think "World Trade Center" could be positive, as long as it's a good movie.

kenzie · Chanel

NCshopper wrote:

Personally, it feels like it's too soon for movies about 9/11 to come out. My whole issue with it (besides the fact that families are still hurting and recovering from it) is that it's not finished yet. We're still at war with Afghanistan and with Iraq and we haven't captured bin Laden yet. To me, we need to tie up those loose ends and close this chapter in our history before we jump into making movies about it. Movies like Saving Private Ryan, Blackhawk Down, Pearl Harbor, Tora! Tora! Tora! and other movies about WW2 reflect an era in our history that is over. There's closure there. That closure isn't there yet with 9/11. I just think that we need to see where 9/11 and the aftermath fit in with a broader historical scope before we can get anything uplifting, inspiring, and, ultimately, meaningful out of a film about it. Making a film about one particular day, as tragic as it was, is just too simplistic.

I was actually going to respond with something similar to this and then I read your post and see that you've said it for me. I think it's just too soon for a movie about this. There are so many movies that are based on tragic historic events, but enough time has passed since those events that the movies are watchable. History serves as inspiration for many movies, tv shows, plays, etc. But the wounds from 9/11 are still too fresh; this movie may just rip them right open for some people.

tri_sarah_tops · Marc Jacobs

Tashina wrote:

i saw the previews for this movie, and they were very moving, and i think that the movie will be so very emmotional and i think it will be a great movie. i won't go see though. i don't think it is right for the movie industry to take an event like this and turn it into something to cash in on. while i was watching the previews i cought myself thinking that if i had lost someone in the attacks, that i would be so pissed that hollywood would glamorize it into a movie. they are going to make a lot of money off of other peoples tragedy and i don't think it is right.

I agree with this and what everyone else said about it being too soon. I won't see it on principle; I really hate that people are making money and capitalizing on such a tragedy.

shopgirl82 · Chanel

i don't think i'll be able to see it yet and i think it's a bit early for there to be a blockbuster about it.

i did see Flight 93 (at home...i didn't trust myself in a theater) and i agree it was more like a documentary and it seemed to celebrate the memory of the victims, i'm not so sure about the WTC movie....

Kel · Coach

I agree with everyone, I think it is to soon for them to be making a movie like this. Like you girls already pointed out with Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down the events were not still recent. Also, I don't like how the movie industry is trying to captailize on 9/11. I like what someone said that if they would give the profits to families it would be different.

Lilykind · Hermes

Part of the box office is going to various charities.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20060726/115397154000.html

I don't think 10% is enough, but I digress.

Hollywood is crazy, but not evil.

blubirde · Chanel

I think I'll go see it, out of curiosity if nothing else. I didn't see United 93 because the night before we were supposed to go see it I kept having all these nightmares about being on the plane. So I thought it best to avoid the situation.

I'll go and I'll see it but I really, really hope there isn't any political propoganda in it, one way or the other. That's my only real fear. I'd hate to see people's emotions played on in that way.

Luv2Shop · Kate Spade

From what I have seen so far it looks like the movie will concentrate on two Officers who were trapped in the collapse of the building and helped eachother survive, and how thier families coped. I really don't even think it's about the "big picture" of the whole thing. Kind of like how Flight 93 was about the people on the plane and their families, I think this is more about the police that were involved and their families. Just my opinion from what I've seen so far though, don't take my word for it.

cahabo · Kate Spade

I agree. A movie like this shouldn't come out for at least another 10 years. Then it would be a good movie to see for people who were too young at the time to understand what was going on.

Karina · Chanel

Unless all the proceeds are going to the victims' families and efforts to rebuild and also boost security -- there is no way in HELL i will watch this movie. TOO close to home. i don't need the flashbacks every night again.

luckyclover · Dooney & Bourke

NCshopper wrote:

Personally, it feels like it's too soon for movies about 9/11 to come out. My whole issue with it (besides the fact that families are still hurting and recovering from it) is that it's not finished yet. We're still at war with Afghanistan and with Iraq and we haven't captured bin Laden yet. To me, we need to tie up those loose ends and close this chapter in our history before we jump into making movies about it.

Well said. I agree that the stories of the heros should be known but I still think it may be too early for a movie that's not a documentary about such a great tradgedy. I hope that since they've already done it, that it is tastefully done.

I also agree with Luv2Shop- they need to make the $$ go toward helping families that were involved rather than capitalizing on a tragedy to make some millonaires more $$. Nicholas Cage owns his own island- I'm pretty sure he could give up half the money (or more) he will make on this so it would help people who really need the money.

I didn't know anyone there but when I was reading that about people taking smiling pictures in front of the site- that irritated me. If they want to take pictures ok but- you don't stand at the site of such a tragedy and smile..it seems disrespectful to me. I don't think those people understand what happened or sadly they have already forgotten.

Irene · Dooney & Bourke

It's been 5 years and I think its time that there is a film that tells the story of other victims of this tragedy, besides those in the planes. Hundreds of FDNY, NYPD, PANY/NJ, and EMS workers were killed. Its time we see their side of things. All of the attention has so far gone to the people on the plaes, particularly Flight 93, but there aare so many stories of the people in the buildings and on the ground in NY and Washington DC. It's been nearly five years. I think this is only the first. There are going to be many more movies that tell the stories that need to be told and I think it is the perfect time for it - whether people make money from it or not. I just want to know the stories. And I was a block away when it went down.

cc · Marc Jacobs

Hedvig wrote:

I don't think I want to see the movie - mainly because I think it'll be too melodramatic and calculated for my taste, especiallly with Cage in it.

This is the only thing that really concerns me. The trailers haven't moved me at all because that is how they came across to me.

I don't really buy into the whole "it's too soon" argument. Not that I don't think it's true that people will have stronger reactions to a movie about 9/11 since it happened so recently - I saw United 93 and was almost shaking throughout most of the movie and I definitely wouldn't have had that reaction if it were a work of fiction or based on an event that happened before my lifetime. The reason that argument bothers me is because for some people it isn't too soon and for others their emotions and reactions to the events and to movies depicting them will never get numbed by time. People who feel like they aren't ready to see the movie don't have to go see it but that sentiment shouldn't prevent anyone else from making a movie or writing a play or a book about it.

Also regarding closure -- I think it's good to have the events represented in different forms of fiction or art because of the fact that there are still so many loose ends and so many questions about what happened. I think it's good to keep the topic on the forefront. I hadn't really thought about or talked about 9/11 in a really long time before seeing United 93 (even though I lived in NYC then and still do). But after seeing in I had really long, interesting conversations with several people about it.

And Luv2Shop, you're correct - the movie is about police officers (I think actually Port Authority officers) who were trapped and their familes and the rescue efforts. Two of them survived and were involved with the production. I think they might even get a story credit.