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Dooney & Bourke

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Is anyone still watching this show?  I Tivoed last week's episode and really liked it... it's fun to get caught up in all the drama between the wives... plus Bill Paxton, oddly enough, is quite handsome looking without his shirt on.


But last night's episode, for me, was a big disappointment.  It seemed like the directors were purposely trying to plant LDS references wherever they could, even in places where it didn't make sense ("Do you want me to lay a blessing on you?" Oh please, I get it already...).  I also thought move of the interactions between the characters were really, really stiff and not believable at all (for instance, the aftermath in the office when Roman's henchmen forced Bill's secretary to write a check ... the dialogue was very awkward there, as well as in the opening scene where Bill tries to convince the wives that they need a home security system).


I'll probably catch next week's show, since I'd like to see Nikki get involved in the conflict between Roman and Bill, but I felt super let-down last night.


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I haven't watched this week's yet, but I think the supporting cast (NOT the main characters) are good representations of a lot of LDS people. The girl who works at the restaurant (can't remember her name...Deb from Napoleon Dynamite) is exactly like many of the girls I went to high school with. Also, no Mormon I know would ever wear some of the stuff Ginnifer Goodwin's character wears.



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halleybird wrote:


Also, no Mormon I know would ever wear some of the stuff Ginnifer Goodwin's character wears.

I agree.  When I watch TV or a movie, I like to be absorbed in the realism of whatever I'm seeing... if it's not realistic, then I can't buy into the story, and I have trouble really enjoying it.  This is one thing that I've been noticing in the past few episodes, too, and it is definitely destracting.... but what can ya do?  It's HBO, and they're always looking to spice it up.  Can't have all of the wives looking like nuns, or else no man would be willing to watch the show. 

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is ginnifer goodwin the youngest wife, margy?  if so, i don't think that she is mormon.  i think that is the point of them showing her in the skimpy clothes and that tiny robe from the 2nd episode, was that they were trying to weed out all of her revealing and provocative clothes and make her more modest like them.  like they are converting her because she is one of the wives. 


i grew up in a mormon family, and "deb" is exactly like some of the girls that i went to church with.  but also, a lot of the people that were my age when i was going to church, were very much rebels and closet rebels due to being bread into such a restrictive religion.  i saw it alot.  i feel like that is where the daughter is headed too on the show along with the restrictons brought on from her family.  you could probably guess how i feel about the mormon church. 



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I don't think Margine is Mormon either.  She said she worked in one of Bill's stores and started babysitting for them.  I liked this episode because it delved more into everyone's feelings about the situation (Margine, an outsider coming in; Rhonda, a young girl about to be married off to an old man; Sarah, the daughter who doesn't believe in polygamy; even Barb and Nikki have thoughts about everything that don't exactly support plural marriage).  I think that is what is sucking me in--I just don't see why someone would enter into a plural marriage, and I know this is HBO, but I feel I have to watch every week just to get more of an insight into this kind of lifestyle. 

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I liked Episode 3 much better than the one before it, which nearly put me to sleep. It did seem that they were forcing a lot of Mormon references into the show that weren't necessary. I did get a laugh out of the Mormon History Mural--stripping it down to the bare bones.

To me, Bill and his family are bland. I hope we get more time with the folks at the Compound--that's where the fascinating stories are.

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I finally watched it last night. Boy, Nicki is super-irritating.


I think you guys might be right about Margine. But doesn't it seem weird that someone who is a Fundamentalist Mormon would marry a non-Mormon? The regular Mo's I knew in high school couldn't even date non-Mormons.


I am starting to think that maybe Bill is trying to make his family a more "modern" version of the fundamentalist church -- to show that they can live in the real world, outside of the compounds, etc. Maybe that's why he married Margine, and that would also explain why Barb has a job, etc. Because they just seem so "off" from not only the FLDS but other LDS members as well. The show is to cognizant of that, I think, to just "Hollywoodize" everything. It seems like the show is revealing the family's backstory slowly, so maybe we'll know more later.


Did anyone else get some creepy vibes from a) Margine hanging out with her stepson (?) and b) Nicki giggling with her dad?



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Tashina wrote:



is ginnifer goodwin the youngest wife, margy?  if so, i don't think that she is mormon. 



I disagree... I think Margene is definitely a Mormon but is a new convert, so she hasn't really made the connection yet between her faith and other parts of her life, like they way she dresses.  Remember in Episode 2 when Bill came in her house to talk to her after praying in his car?  She was sitting all alone on the couch with the two babies, and he cupped her face in his hands and talked about how they were sealed for all eternity, that they would be a family in heaven together, and how the family (and he) wasn't complete until she came along.  (These are all things that the LDS church teaches.)  She started crying... and I think it's because that's what she believes, too.


ETA:  If this post makes it sound like I've changed my mind from when I started this thread... I have.    This is my new theory....



-- Edited by Eurodaisy at 12:26, 2006-03-29

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I think Margene is definitely a Mormon but is a new convert, so she hasn't really made the connection yet between her faith and other parts of her life, like they way she dresses.  Remember in Episode 2 when Bill came in her house to talk to her after praying in his car?  She was sitting all alone on the couch with the two babies, and he cupped her face in his hands and talked about how they were sealed for all eternity, that they would be a family in heaven together, and how the family (and he) wasn't complete until she came along.  (These are all things that the LDS church teaches.)  She started crying... and I think it's because that's what she believes, too. ETA:  If this post makes it sound like I've changed my mind from when I started this thread... I have.    This is my new theory....-- Edited by Eurodaisy at 12:26, 2006-03-29

i'm not saying that she isn't mormon at all.  i think that they have converted since she was going to be married to bill.  but what i was saying was she wasn't mormon before and that is why she still wears the things she does and since they converted her they have been weeding out all of the skimpy things in her closet, like the robe she wore to breakfast in the second episode.  so when she said that they were sealed for eternity, she may believe that and still not have been mormon before they were married.  she still could have been a convert.

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Tashina:  My thoughts exactly.  She def. didn't grow up in a Mormon household... she's the daughter of a single mom and her upbringing wasn't the most stable (as least, that's what I got from the character bio on hbo.com... yes, I am obsessed with this show )

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I'm a fan of this show, too. I don't like the storyline with Roman though. It bores me. I like seeing the interactions within the immediate family. I have watched it every week so far, but missed the first half of the first episode. I'm still wondering how he ended up married to these women in the first place. How did it all come about?

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Maat:  Check out the character bios on hbo.com/biglove.  Very informative, they give great background to everything leading up to the first episode.

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