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Kenneth Cole

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Here's what I don't believe, no matter how many people have told me otherwise, it can't be true. I don't believe that it is possible to stay friends with somebody after you were romantically involved with them. I am not finding it possible. How can you? They know everything...you had feelings for them that won't just disappear overnight...you want to just wake up and forget that the switch has been made, you want to go back to the way it was. I don't believe that other women are okay with calling him up and hearing about the new girl he has. I don't believe that they can see and hang out with him like friends, just friends. How do women do it? Maybe I have a flaw, because I can't do it. I cannot make that switch. Is it just me? Or not? How did you do it?    



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I think in all circumstances you need a break of at least three months so it won't feel weird to talk to him. And in some circumstances, it's never going to happen. Plus, what's the point? People come into your life and sometimes they go out. That's just life. You don't have to hang onto everyone.

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It definately depends on how serious you were, how long you were together, how you broke up and how much time has passed.


I am still friends with my first BF in high school. We were together for 3 years and I dumped him my senior year to go out and have fun. We didn't speak for probably 2 years and now we are really close. Both of us had enough time to move on and I am married and he is in a serious relationship.


I think it can work but all factors have be working in your favor.



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I can't do it & quite frankly, I don't understand why you'd want to. But maybe it's just me..

My ex wants to be "friends" - I don't get it. He has friends & I don't even like him. Why would I even want to talk to him?


-- Edited by laken1 at 09:41, 2006-01-12

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Gucci

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I have been able to do this with only two guys - one, we were "together" for about five months, but we were still very close afterwards (though not sexually) up until I met my husband. We've been friends for ten years now.

With the other, we were friends first (for years) before anything happened. And it only happened twice. And though he let me know he'd be open to more than just friends, I was never up for that. So we went back to being friends, and that's been about ten years now too.

I, too, have never been able to be friends with a true boyfriend (like steady dating for a year or more) because there's usually too much water under the bridge in those relationships - like you said, fairywings, they know everything, and you know them so intimately. Even when I've tried, sometimes the guy was the one to say he couldn't deal with knowing that I'd move on.

I think it's because I'm very intense in relationships, and the men I date(d) were also very intense, and so we just couldn't get past the breakup to something friendlier. It's kind of all or nothing for me, in most instances. I'm always in awe of women who can manage it though - I wasn't able to except with those last two I mentioned, which were when I was in my late twenties. Maybe the early twenties and teen years are just more emotional in general (I know they were for me) and none of us could handle it when we were younger.


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I can be friends with men I've dated and gotten close with but I'm not friends with the two serious boyfriends I had. One was in high school and I don't really talk to that many people from high school, so it's not that weird. The second relationship was really serious and it wasn't the best relationship ever, so why be friends with someone I don't even like?


I think it just depends on the type of relationship you had, the type of people both of you are, and how much time has passed. My BFF is great friends with her serious ex (she's married now). Their relationship ended because he moved back to London, so I guess that had something to do with it.


But hey, if it doesn't work, don't worry about it. It's not necessary to be friends with ex-boyfriends. In fact, I would say it's probably a rarity.



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I can't do it and wouldn't want to with ANY of my exes, whether I broke their heart or they broke mine.  I don't want my husband to be friends with any exes either.   But I guess it depends on what happened in the relationship...like in the rare case that a break up is mutual or started as a friendship.  I do have one sort-of ex from a brief relationship, 7 years ago, with a guy that is in my same circle of longtime friends, so my husband and I see him at get-togethers about twice a year or more.  It is a little awkward, but my husband isn't jealous about it, has full disclosure about all the details because I am an open book, and it is only easy for ME because it wasn't a serious relationship to begin with, I basically am the one who ended it, and the guy was already in my circle of friends for years before we even became briefly involved.  BUT there is still a .... feeling there.... can't say for certain if it is one-sided or what, but it's not like I correspond with him the way I do others in this group of pals, it's different when you have had intimacy in the past.


In general, being close friends with an ex only hinders chances of bonding with someone new.  I am married of course, but I wouldn't date a guy who had a "best friend" who was also someone he had been intimate with.



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Kate Spade

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maybe im weird.  i am friends with almost all of my exes.  its sometimes weird at first but after time we usually have a pretty good relationship.  for me, i obviously think good things about the person if i am going to be romantic with them but sometimes the romantic part doesn't work out.  i still like them and care about them but i don't want to be with them.  this is may sound crazy, but sometimes it makes me feel closer to them. like, i've seen you naked you can't fool me.  my ex-husband and i are really just starting to work on having some sort of friendship.  he has a new girlfriend and i honestly hope things work for them.  he is a wonderful guy, we just weren't right together.  i understand that this might be weird for anyone that i date and i would respect their wishes if they weren't ok with my relationship with any of my exes.  when my ex-husband and i were married he had one ex-girlfriend that he was friends with that still loved him and i didn't approve of their relationship but you can usually tell when those feelings are there and i'm not ok with that. 

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I can't really do it all that well, either.  I went out for dinner with Stupid the other day and it was so hard.  I know that I don't want to be with him. I know that he's an asshole.  I know that he has the emotional maturity of a 10th grade boy.  But it still hurt.  I still felt that wave of nostalgia while we were at dinner.  And I was sad when I left, but I also started to feel anger at him (like I had for so long) and I just don't want to feel like that anymore. 


Of course, it doesn't help that he's retaliating by having a revolving door of women at his house now that we aren't together. If it breathes and looks in his direction, he'll pounce on it just to make himself feel better.  He said that if I'm dating other people, he doesn't want to be left behind.  So he finds whatever he can.  So attractive, right?


Ugh, so in a nutshell, I don't think that, as a rule, most exes can be friends. But of course, rules have exceptions and I won't say that it's impossible.



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laken1 wrote:


I can't do it & quite frankly, I don't understand why you'd want to. But maybe it's just me..


Nope Laken, its not just you. I completely agree. I am not, can't be and won't be friends with any of the guys I've formerly dated. I could see going on a date and deciding your better as friends but not if the relationship has been intimate. My mother always says "You can't go back to holding hands".


Friends of mine were married, then seperated and stayed "best friends". To the point where they moved back in togeather "as friends". Needless to say, there were a LOT of hurt feelings when she starting dating other guys and bringing them home. Well, for godsakes...what did you expect, really?



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i think it depends on so many things.  i completely agree with this statement by lorelei: In general, being close friends with an ex only hinders chances of bonding with someone new.  I am married of course, but I wouldn't date a guy who had a "best friend" who was also someone he had been intimate with. 


i know too many people that don't move on because they're always with the person that they never got over/never will get over.  so i think being friends has to happen after both have moved on.  sometimes that never happens, and sometimes, the person is an ass or you've grown so far apart that theres no point. 


relationships dissolve for all kinds of reasons- not every single reason means you can't get on as friends.  sometimes love can even be found again.  everywhere in the world, people are "just friends" with the person they are painfully, secretly in love with.  its kind of sweet- and sometimes thats what love is.  loving someone and not expecting anything in return.


i will say though that when one person is dumped and still in love and the other person wants to be friends- it is often too hard to be friends at first.  the one that has been dumped has to decide whats best and usually that is not being friends.  i've been on both ends- so i know how it goes both ways.



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lynnie wrote:


everywhere in the world, people are "just friends" with the person they are painfully, secretly in love with.  its kind of sweet- and sometimes thats what love is.  loving someone and not expecting anything in return.




This just made me tear up a little. But I've also been having an emotional week.

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I think it definitely depends on the people involved, the relationship, and the breakup.  The two people I dated more seriously before I met my husband I just can't be friends with.  One is too painful for me because he was a total ass and I just don't really respect him as a person.  The other one was one I broke up with and I always felt like he was trying to win me back and now whenever he IMs me I feel like it's because he's trying to prove to me what a great person he is.  So, we're not friends either.


Other guys that I casually dated I've found I have no problem being friends with.  I think in those relationships both parties understood that the relationship was just for fun and not meant for the long term, so the breakups weren't bad.  I doubt I could ever be great bestest friends with any of them, because they're not terribly mature, but I can still be friends with them.


Also, I don't think it has to do with the level of physical intimacy at all--I think it 100% has to do with the emotional intimacy that happened during the relationship.



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lynnie wrote:


  I am married of course, but I wouldn't date a guy who had a "best friend" who was also someone he had been intimate with. 

Sorry to be offtopic but I didn't think you were married, Lynnie. Was that a typo or is there something you didn't tell us?

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Time really does heal all wounds, but you need time.


Didn't you guys just break up a few weeks ago, and wasn't it his choice? Tell him if he calls to talk that you can't, that you are busy.


Give yourself some space and just be good to yourself. You are not obligated to be his friend, the relationship ended on the terms it existed before.


In time you may feel differently, but honestly I went to an event with my husband where 2 of my ex's were there. I still had a tug on the old heartstrings even though I ended both relationships. I was fine with them though, we all chatted and had a great time and caught up on each other, but it was a long time in coming. Like 18 years!


If this has only been a few weeks, just don't even try to be friends right now, its not worth the suffering you will put yourself through.



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BrazenCanadian wrote:


lynnie wrote:   I am married of course, but I wouldn't date a guy who had a "best friend" who was also someone he had been intimate with.  Sorry to be offtopic but I didn't think you were married, Lynnie. Was that a typo or is there something you didn't tell us?

haha, no. i'm not.  that was part of lorelei's quote.  guess i shoulda put it all in quotes.

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Kate Spade

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oh, it is so hard to be friends with an ex. i think its very possible to be friends with people you have casually dated, but sooooo hard with someone you loved. i'm finally friends with my ex (also my first love) but it took a long time. over a year i believe. it also helped that i have a great, wonderful bf now!

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One of my dearest friends is an ex. We were in a serious relationship for 3+ years. I think it only works in very specific situations. First, neither of you can want more and the relationship needs to have ended mutually. In my situation, we realized we would always love each other, but we would never be "in love" if that makes sense. We can talk about anything, but we have very platonic feelings for each other...in other words, neither of us is tripping the other and beating them to the floor. Needless to say, it only works if there is no "benefits-option".

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I think it depends on how your relationship ended. It's possible to be friends with an ex if the break-up is mutual and there are no hard feelings. However, if the break-up ended on bad terms then it is impossible to remain friends.

-- Edited by gypsyfreak at 15:33, 2006-01-15

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