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kenzie · Chanel

Lost! 11/9

ILoveChoo · Hermes

eh, after all the hype the episode kind of sucked. I think Cindy is "lost forever"- def. fits the spoilers better. They never explicitly said someone would die.

Is it just me, or did Shannon's wound not look like it came from a gun? It seemed way to big/open. I don't think Ana Lucia did it.

I like Shannon way more now. She seems so inncocent and helpless. And her stepmother was a major bitch.

with walt- did sayid really see him? or did he just tell sahnnon that so she wouldn't get pissed off at him again? if he really was just a vision of shannon's, how are they going to kill her off without losing that whole plot line?

AL told Libby "remember what they did to us?" what the hell did they do? it seemed person, yet they weren't harmed. I don't know about the whole snatching away part... maybe, but how would that explain Goodwin with the spear through his chest? (and to me, shannon's chest looked more like his did than it should have if she was shot)

eta: another reason I don't think shannon is dead- her falshbacks last night created more openings in her backstory- it didn't resolve it. so what did she end up doing? did she go to NY? we know at some point she started using all her boyfriends to get the money- how did that come about? how exactly did she end up in australia?

-- Edited by ILoveChoo at 09:04, 2005-11-10

kenzie · Chanel

ILoveChoo wrote:

with walt- did sayid really see him? or did he just tell sahnnon that so she wouldn't get pissed off at him again? if he really was just a vision of shannon's, how are they going to kill her off without losing that whole plot line?

AL told Libby "remember what they did to us?" what the hell did they do? it seemed person, yet they weren't harmed. I don't know about the whole snatching away part... maybe, but how would that explain Goodwin with the spear through his chest? (and to me, shannon's chest looked more like his did than it should have if she was shot) eta:

I don't think that Sayid saw Walt. I think he definitely heard the whispers (but he had heard them before during last season), but I think he was just trying to appease Shannon.

As for the Tailies, I forgot to add this before, I think Libby is an Other. Kind of like Ethan was to the Losties. She was right in front of Cindy when they were climbing up the hill and Cindy handed her the walking sticks. And then Cindy disappeared. I just find something off about her.

As for Ana Lucia, I'm pretty sure it was her her shot Shannon, just from the looks on her face and everyone else's faces. If it wasn't her, it was Libby, who I don't think we saw in the final shot of the Tailies, Michael and Jin. And I would love for Sayid to go all crazy Iraqi soldier on Ana Lucia. He's a man who's now (possibly) lost two loves, or at least his current love is seriously wounded. He's going to have it out for whoever did that. If it's Libby, then maybe he'll off her, especially after they realize that she's an Other. I suppose next week, we'll see if she was actually on the plane. But then again, she could have been. Afterall, she's a clinical psychologist (um, BF Skinner, Dharma Intiative anyone?).

I love this show!!!

ETA: Did anyone else notice that even though Aaron is not supposed to be raised by anyone other than Claire, that there seems to be a few more people than just Claire involved? First Charlie, now Locke.

-- Edited by NylaBelle at 09:14, 2005-11-10

ILoveChoo · Hermes

ooh- now that you mention that about Libby...I like it! she does have an ethan-like quality about her. do you remember what/if ethan said he did in the "real" world? was it something similar?

Oh, I totally want Sayid to go crazy on AL. I can't stand her. At first I though she def. shout Shan., but when I think about it more, I don't know. Didn't they say someone would be accused but the real killer would be revealed in 2 weeks? What if AL shot the gun, but it missed her, or just grazed her? she and everyone else might think she did it even if she didn't. or the shocked look could have been at them seeing the real "killer" and AL shot that person... who knows? I'm just wary of taking the whole thing at face value...my bet is on the writers screwing with our heads.

gruiz · Kenneth Cole

Do we know what Shannon did for a living at the time the plane crashed? I don't remember if they ever said....I think I just assumed she was a model or something. I don't remember them saying anything about her being a dancer, though.

kenzie · Chanel

ILoveChoo, I don't remember if Ethan ever actually said what he did in the real world. I'll have to go back and look at the DVD's.

gruiz, I also don't remember any reference to Shannon and a career. The only thing that I remember was that she would con men for money and tried to get money from her stepmom. Which, after last night's episode, we know why. Her stepmom was a royal biatch!

NCshopper · Hermes

I loved last night's episode. It was a little slow compared to some of the other episodes in the past, but I liked learning more about Shannon. Her backstory made me sympathize with her a lot more than before. I'm with you guys that Shannon may not actually be dead. We know she's injured, but she may not be dead yet. And Nyla--the issue with Jack having to decide which one to help first could come back.

The Claire/Locke/Charlie story in this episode seemed a little weak to me. Hard to explain...but it didn't quite fit in well with the rest of the episode and seemed like a distraction. Charlie's jealousy seemed a little built up in news releases and seemed like it didn't amount to much last night.

That whole thing with Cindy disappearing was just weird. And there's something strange about Libby as well. Her role so far has been totally meaningless, yet they've given her speaking parts and gone so far as to name her, which they don't do with everyone on the show, which leads me to think we'll learn a lot more about her and it should be interesting.

Oh, and last night's episode just made me love Sayid more. It's hard to say I have a favorite person on the show because there are so many interesting people, but Sayid is right up at the top of my favorite list right now.

kenzie · Chanel

NCshopper wrote:

The Claire/Locke/Charlie story in this episode seemed a little weak to me. Hard to explain...but it didn't quite fit in well with the rest of the episode and seemed like a distraction. Charlie's jealousy seemed a little built up in news releases and seemed like it didn't amount to much last night. That whole thing with Cindy disappearing was just weird. And there's something strange about Libby as well. Her role so far has been totally meaningless, yet they've given her speaking parts and gone so far as to name her, which they don't do with everyone on the show, which leads me to think we'll learn a lot more about her and it should be interesting. Oh, and last night's episode just made me love Sayid more. It's hard to say I have a favorite person on the show because there are so many interesting people, but Sayid is right up at the top of my favorite list right now.

I think that possibly the Claire/Locke/Charlie scenario was setting up for things to come. Remember, Locke knows what's in those Mary statues, but Charlie doesn't know that he knows that. I think this is a subplot that will grow further in future episodes. And as for the press and all their hype. Eh, I don't believe 'em. They're all saying that Shannon is dead today. I think they're wrong.

I feel like they are doing with Libby what they did with Ethan. I wonder what Libby's last name is. Does anyone know? We could plug it into an anagram wizard and see if it's anything like Ethan Rom.

And yeah, I totally Sayid! But Jack is still my favorite and I was said to only get a small glimpse of him in last night's episode.

NCshopper · Hermes

NylaBelle wrote:

ILoveChoo, I don't remember if Ethan ever actually said what he did in the real world. I'll have to go back and look at the DVD's.

I *just* watched that episode over the weekend and I don't remember him saying what he did for a living. Crap! I'll have to go back and watch.

kenzie · Chanel

Okay, I just popped into the boards over at www.oceanicflight815.com and there are theories flying around that Shannon was stabbed and Ana Lucia shot whoever it was that stabbed Shannon. This makes sense to me. And I stand by my conclusion that it's Libby.

NCshopper · Hermes

NylaBelle wrote:

We could plug it into an anagram wizard and see if it's anything like Ethan Rom.

What was the anagram for Ethan Rom?

gruiz · Kenneth Cole

I just came across this site if anyone wants to watch the Dharma film again for more clues!

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/dharma.html

mikacat · Coach

NCshopper wrote:

NylaBelle wrote: We could plug it into an anagram wizard and see if it's anything like Ethan Rom. What was the anagram for Ethan Rom?

other man

NCshopper · Hermes

mikacat wrote:

NCshopper wrote: NylaBelle wrote: We could plug it into an anagram wizard and see if it's anything like Ethan Rom. What was the anagram for Ethan Rom? other man

Ooooooooooooh!!! Creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy! That seriously gave me shivers!

kenzie · Chanel

Okay, I just went to ABC's site and when you go under show info and cast info they have added both Ana Lucia and Libby. Both Shannon and Sawyer are still there. They also give a last name for all of the characters, except Libby!! This character is an Other. I'm convinced! And neither Shannon nor Sawyer are dead. Mr. Eko is also there. Mysteriously missing: Bernard and Rose.

Oh, and when you click on Libby's name for character info, it says, "coming soon."

ETA: this little blurb was under Jack's info on this site. Keep in mind this is ABC's official site.

Euthanized US Marshal after a botched mercy killing attempt by Sawyer

Did anyone else realize that he euthanized the Marshall?? I never knew that!!!

Okay, I'm just going to copy and paste all of the character info from that site, b/c I keep finding things that people have been debating for a while.

Jack:

BEFORE THE CRASH

Spinal surgeon, just like his father

So driven by his need to help others that he married a woman whose life he saved

Betrayed his alcoholic father to the hospital board after a patient died under his knife

Went to Australia to find his missing father only to discover he'd drank himself to death

Bringing father's body home from Australia for burial
ON THE ISLAND

Reluctant leader who made decision to cremate the passengers who didn't survive

Euthanized US Marshal after a botched mercy killing attempt by Sawyer

Solves disputes with reason but not afraid to use guns or torture if necessary

Discovered caves with fresh water supply for shelter

Found father's coffin, but no body

Trapped by cave-in, rescued by Charlie

Tried but failed to save Boone's life

Competes with Sawyer for Kate's attention

Kate

BEFORE THE CRASH

Fugitive from justice for several years

Crimes included armed robbery, assault, resisting arrest

Caused the death of her childhood boyfriend while resisting arrest

Extradited to US to stand trial
ON THE ISLAND

Bravely led the first exploration into the jungle

Helped try to rescue Claire and Charlie when they were kidnapped by sinister Ethan Rom

Recovered US Marshal's Halliburton case full of guns from island pond

Also in the case was her most cherished possession, a metal toy plane that belonged to her childhood sweetheart

Delivered Claire's baby in the middle of the jungle

Exposed to the group as a fugitive by Sawyer after trying to steal his place on the raft

Charlie

BEFORE THE CRASH

Bass player for successful UK band Drive Shaft; his younger brother Liam was lead singer

Heroin addiction lasted far longer than band's fame

Turned to crime to support his habit

Went to Australia to convince brother to re-form band
ON THE ISLAND

Locke helped him kick drug addiction

Rescued Jack from cave-in while in withdrawal

Befriended Claire, convincing her to move to caves

Almost killed when they were kidnapped by sinister Ethan Rom; Jack saved him with CPR

Hunted down and shot Ethan Rom in revenge

Tempted by heroin found on wrecked smuggler's plane

Nicknamed Claire's baby Turnip Head

Hurley

BEFORE THE CRASH

Won $156 million lottery with numbers from patient in a mental institution: 4 8 15 16 23 42

Suffered from bad luck after win: grandfather died, new house burned, mom broke foot

Bought the box company Locke works for with his winnings

Traced the numbers to another unlucky man in Australia

Almost missed the flight, but tenaciously made it on board in spite of several omens warning him to stay off the plane
ON THE ISLAND

His laid-back humor keeps the survivors' spirits up

Secretly believes his bad luck caused crash

Owes Walt $20,000 for losing in backgammon

Developed two-hole island golf course

Took census revealing Ethan Rom wasn't on plane

Panicked when he saw the winning numbers on the mysterious hatch right before Locke blew it open

Shannon

BEFORE THE CRASH

Spoiled Daddy's girl, age 20

Conned money out of her stepmom by faking abusive relationships

Seduced her stepbrother Boone after her last boyfriend ran off with her cash
ON THE ISLAND

Refused to build camp, believing they'd be rescued

Went on a jungle trek to annoy Boone

Translated cryptic French distress signal

Suffered an asthma attack that threatened her life

Took Boone's death hard, blames Locke for the death

Fell for Sayid but turned away when he refused to kill Locke in revenge for Boone

Walt

BEFORE THE CRASH:

Nine-year-old son of Michael

Lived with mother Susan and her husband in Australia

Going to live with Michael after the death of his mother

Attached to his dog, Vincent
ON THE ISLAND:

Befriended by Locke

Likes reading a Spanish-language comic book found after the plane crash

Burned the raft his father built in an effort to stay on the island

Kidnapped after setting out on the rebuilt raft with Michael

Sayid

BEFORE THE CRASH

Communications Officer for Iraqi Republican Guard in first Gulf War

Tortured and interrogated prisoners for the Iraqi government

Helped his childhood love Nadia escape prison

Recruited by US and Australian agents to infiltrate a terrorist cell which included his best friend from college

Foiled the terrorist cell's bombing attempt but watched his friend commit suicide as a result

Racing to LA to reunite with Nadia
ON THE ISLAND

Repaired transponder, picked up distress signal

Attacked by Locke while locating signal transmitter

Mistakenly tortured Sawyer to get hoarded medicine

While exploring, captured by crazy French woman who's been alone for 16 years—escaped with her island maps

Despite romance with Shannon, stopped her from killing Locke in revenge for Boone's death

Rigged radar for raft

Michael

BEFORE THE CRASH

Construction worker, sketch artist

Brutal car accident resulted in long hospital recovery

Ex-girlfriend used accident to gain full custody of their son Walt

Got custody of his son back when the ex died from a rare blood disorder

Afraid he can't take care of Walt by himself
ON THE ISLAND

Befriended Sun, which made her husband jealous

Envious of his son Walt's friendship with Locke

Finally bonded with his son over box of drawings and letters to Walt that the ex had kept hidden

Built raft, but his son burns it to remain on the island together

Built and launched second raft, only to have his son kidnapped several miles from

Sawyer

BEFORE THE CRASH

Watched parents die in murder/suicide after being swindled out of their life savings by "Sawyer"

Became a con man and adopted the name and methods of the man he holds responsible for his parents' deaths

Obsessed with hunting for the original "Sawyer" for revenge

Killed the wrong man thinking he was "Sawyer"

Encountered Jack's father in an Australian bar

Deported from Australia for head-butting the Minister of Agriculture
ON THE ISLAND

Good ol' boy plays all the angles and hoards supplies, booze, sunscreen, etc.

Stubbornly allowed Sayid to torture him

Carrying on a hot and heavy flirtation with Kate

Bought his way onto raft with hoarded supplies

Shot by Walt's kidnappers during incident on raft

Locke

BEFORE THE CRASH

Collections supervisor for a box company

Master of war and strategy games

Raised in a foster home

As adult, found his ailing biological father who conned him out of a kidney then cruelly cut him off again

In wheelchair for last 4 years—reason unknown
ON THE ISLAND

Miraculously able to walk again after crash

Uses his skills to hunt and live off the land

Discovered unnatural sealed hatch to unknown underground area

Visions led him to drug smuggler's plane

May have caused Boone's death by allowing him to explore a plane wreck precariously perched in a tree canopy

Unafraid of island's "monster security system"

Believes the island has brought them all here for a reason—it's their fate

Jin

BEFORE THE CRASH

A fisherman's son who courted Sun in secret but insisted on asking her wealthy father for permission to marry

Worked for her father as an enforcer after their wedding

Refused to tell Sun about her father's shady dealings

Planned to run away with Sun while on a business trip in the US
ON THE ISLAND

An outsider because he doesn't speak English

Tried to make friends by sharing seafood he caught

Wears handcuff souvenir from a fight with Michael

Estranged from Sun when he discovered she secretly learned English

Made up with Sun before leaving on raft

Dove off raft to rescue Sawyer after he was shot

Sun

BEFORE THE CRASH

Rich girl who married Jin despite him being from a lower class

Only companion was Shar-Pei puppy Jin gave her

Learned English in secret so she could run away from her failing marriage

At the last minute, decided to stay with her husband and board flight 815
ON THE ISLAND

Eager to help, but Jin's jealousy holds her back

Cured Shannon's asthma attack with herbal remedy

Planted herb garden to grow "medicine"

Revealed she could speak English to the group when her husband was accused of burning the raft

Estranged from Jin because of her secrets

Attempted to poison Jin in order to keep him from risking his life by going on the raft

Claire

BEFORE THE CRASH

Her boyfriend convinced her to have his baby

Desperate to give up her baby for adoption after he walked out on her

A psychic insisted she must raise child herself, "Danger surrounds this baby"

Out of the blue, the psychic arranged adoption in Los Angeles
ON THE ISLAND

Feels outcast because of her pregnancy

Thinks the psychic knew the plane was going down

Kidnapped with Charlie by stranger Ethan Rom

Reappeared with no memory of time since the crash

Kate helped deliver her son, Aaron

Helped Locke make cradle for Aaron

Relieved to discover Sawyer's voice soothes her crying baby

Remembered escaping from the French woman by scratching her

Mr. Eko

Coming soon (is he an Other, too??) I'll be so upset. I like him!

Ana Lucia

BEFORE THE CRASH

Flirted with Jack at the Sydney Airport

Seat 42F, in the tail section of the plane
ON THE ISLAND

Missing, presumed dead

Libby

Coming Soon

-- Edited by NylaBelle at 10:20, 2005-11-10

ILoveChoo · Hermes

NylaBelle wrote:

Okay, I just popped into the boards over at www.oceanicflight815.com and there are theories flying around that Shannon was stabbed and Ana Lucia shot whoever it was that stabbed Shannon. This makes sense to me. And I stand by my conclusion that it's Libby.

Mr. Eko

Coming soon (is he an Other, too??) I'll be so upset. I like him!

thats what I think. It did NOT look like a gun wound. My bet is on Libby too, since she wasn't in that final scene. Makes total sense.

I don't think Mr. Echo is an other. He's not creepy enough. Plus, he hid from them. I think he might be more of a Danielle type- survivor from the drug plane maybe?

-- Edited by ILoveChoo at 10:27, 2005-11-10

kenzie · Chanel

ILoveChoo wrote:

NylaBelle wrote: Okay, I just popped into the boards over at www.oceanicflight815.com and there are theories flying around that Shannon was stabbed and Ana Lucia shot whoever it was that stabbed Shannon. This makes sense to me. And I stand by my conclusion that it's Libby. thats what I think. It did NOT look like a gun wound. My bet is on Libby too, since she wasn't in that final scene. Makes total sense.

Was Mr. Eko in the final scene?? I can't remember. But he has the same 'coming soon' info listed as LIbby on the ABC site. And he does seem to have some super human strength.

kenzie · Chanel

Okay, just for kicks, I plugged Mr. Ecko (I know it's supposedly spelled Eko, but I was curious) into an anagram finder and here are some of the things it came up with:

Rock Me

Rock em

Mocker

Cork me

Cork em

Kincali · Dooney & Bourke

I guess Shannon is really dead, hmmmm http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-11-10-lost-death_x.htm

Also, if anyone else gets confused like me:

Libbycindy(also airline stewardess) standing next to libby

-- Edited by fairlight at 11:08, 2005-11-10

-- Edited by fairlight at 11:09, 2005-11-10

NCshopper · Hermes

NylaBelle wrote:

Euthanized US Marshal after a botched mercy killing attempt by Sawyer Did anyone else realize that he euthanized the Marshall?? I never knew that!!!

In that scene you see Jack go back in the tent after Sawyer shot the Marshall in the lung. I *think* that Jack then suffocates the guy because you see him walking out of the tent later looking upset.