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I need to vent.

I'm a marketing communication analyst and I have worked at this company for a little over a year now. I'm only 23 but I work hard and please my boss (she's Marketing Director), the company president, and my other "kind-of" boss, the Director of Sales and Business Development (named R.) Let me clarify by saying that R was one of the people who interviewed me for this job, and obviously the sales and marketing departments work closely together, so when R asks me to work on something, he'll CC my boss on the assignment and I will do it. R is a pretty good guy, but he's definitely out for himself. He has a tendency to feel that anything he wants is the most important, urgent thing in the world and that everyone should cater to his desires.

Now, about 4 months ago, R hired himself a sales executive named M. M is extremely self-confident to the point of being cocky and arrogant, but has excellent people skills so everyone here seems to like him just fine. M is 31 years old if that's relevant. At first, M and I would exhibit at trade shows together, but he's obviously not my boss and didn't act as such. Now, M has started typing me emails such as the following (if it doesn't seem to make much sense, don't worry -- this guy cannot write very well but thinks he can):

"I had told Mary that we would definitely exhibit, and to please reserve a booth for us, but that I was unsure if we would sponsor. Please contact her to confirm that level of sponsor that we will be attending as.  In doing so, find out the specifics of what the thousand dollars extra gets in sponsorship, and that you will run that by our executives to see if they want to take advantage of that, and you will contact her if we decide to participate at that level."

These emails come all the time now, especially over the past 3 weeks -- he'll hear about a conference, then type out an email telling me exactly what to ask the conference's coordinator when I call them, word for word (as you saw above.)

OK, 2 things. One, in his emails to me and also the way he speaks to me in person, he talks to me like I'm stupid or "beneath" him. It's so offensive the way he tells me step-by-step what to do or say, like you would to a child. Two, why is he wasting his time by typing an email to me that tells me word for word what to ask someone? Why can't he just pick up the damn phone and call the person himself? It would be faster!!

In addition, he will often come into my office (no hello or anything) and say something like, "I need brochures" or "what's the status on XYZ?" And this is the worst -- whenever he asks what's the status on XYZ, I have ALREADY SENT HIM AN EMAIL (replying to HIS bossy email) giving him the status and telling him I will keep him posted with additional news (and I know he sees the email, b/c he writes back and says "thanks, keep me posted.") Um, why are you asking me the status? I just sent you an email an hour ago and TOLD you I would keep you posted! Yet I simply tell him, "I'll keep you posted." (How redundant!)

Is this kind of thing happening because I'm 8 years younger than him? Because I'm female? Because he's on a power trip in general? It can't be because he's been around longer, he's only been here for for 4 months. I'm wondering if his boss, R, is secretly telling him, "Oh, and you should definitely use Christine as a resource (aka, your office b*tch)."

I don't know if I want to talk to my boss about this, because it's not a very "team player" thing to do -- this is a really small company (50 ppl) to begin with.

Any advice, thoughts? I'm sure some of you girls have had really similar situations....? Grrr!


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This may be childish, but if I were you I'd start doing the same sort of thing to him and see what he says.  Write the same sort of emails and make the same kind of comments to remind him that neither of you supervises the other.

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there may be a little bit of ageism and sexism going on, but I don't really think this is about you.  I think the guy is just plain annoying and just the kind of co worker we all have to live with sometimes. 


I suggest that you confront him professionally about the long-winded step-by-step emails and just let him know that he need not spend time and effort on such a long and detailed email, when he could save time by either calling you directly or stopping by your desk.


 



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i think part of the issue is also that he's asking her to do things as if he was her superior - things that he could be doing himself.  in fact he's not even asking her, he's telling her - when those responsibilities are as much his as hers!

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sorry to tell you this, but sales always think that everyone else works for them!  if his requests to you are a big problem, I still think you should confront him before you go to your boss.  just do so diplomatically, professionally, and with dignity.  you don't want to further compound any sexism or ageism, and if you seem the tiniest bit like a tattle tale, that's going to happen. 

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lorelei wrote:

sorry to tell you this, but sales always think that everyone else works for them!



This is exactly it, I think. This guy's personality doesn't help either. He's so arrogant! I don't really know what I can do in this situation. I think approaching him about it isn't really going to help; I think he'll just brush me off and continue the same behavior.

In terms of writing emails to him in the same manner and tone, he would probably forward them to his boss (they have quickly become buddies) and they'd probably speak to me about how I should be careful with the tone I use. I think he can get away with treating me however he wants, but if I were to reciprocate, I would be the b*tch with the attitude problem.

Maybe I am doomed as long as I work in marketing, no matter what the company?

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