I passed on them (good for shopping ban, bad for jeans collection), but I find them to be pretty low...about an inch below my bellybutton, but not super-low 2 inches like True Religion. They are a bit tight through the thigh...I can barely fit through them at first but they do stretch eventually (I used to own the Siouxsies). I like that they give me hips (I'm a bit lacking) to enhance the 34D chest and the mini-ghetto booty I was already blessed with.