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Hermes

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This article ran in the paper here yesterday and made me irrationally irritated.  I think what was more irritating than the article were the outfit suggestions listed with it (listed below). 

Don't outdress the boss

And other rules to help you win that raise or promotion

All those late nights at the office. All those times you volunteered to lead committees, work weekends, go to conferences.

They might help you snag that big promotion.

But those jingle-jangle earrings? The Fu Manchu mustache? Your hairstyle from the late '90s?

They could be hurting your chances of getting that corner office.

"You definitely have to put forward your best image," said Cynthia Nellis, a style expert at the About.com women's fashion Web site. "Even if you're allowed to wear jeans and T-shirts to the office, it's not going to project an image to get you promoted. You need to take it a notch above the company policy."

Just look around the office on a Monday morning. You can easily spot the office slob, with his coffee-stained tie and wrinkled shirts, or the workplace flasher, the woman who thinks it's OK to show ample cleavage or plenty of leg. They are the obvious rule breakers who will have trouble getting ahead.

It's getting worse now that summer is here, and workers are shedding clothes -- and breaking more rules -- to stay cool, wearing anything from flip-flops to sleeveless shirts to the office.

But it's not just the bad dressers who are judged -- and often overlooked -- at promotion time. It's the woman who wears too much makeup -- or too little. Or the guy who wears flip flops and short-sleeve button-down shirts, thinking he's meeting the casual dress code.

"Our image can tell others that we are creative or dependable or conservative or all of those and more," said image consultant Carolyn Gustafson, owner of Image Strategy for Men & Women in Cary. "We make quick decisions about people based on their appearance. Whether or not that's right, that's the reality of it. We can't wear our resume around our neck."

How someone is dressed was the third most important attribute in getting a new job, according to a study by Syracuse University and Total Executive Inc. of 300 executive recruiters, chief executives and directors of personnel. That's behind communication and presentation skills.

Executives surveyed by TheLadders.com, a Web site for job seekers looking for six-figure salaries, last year said employees who dress casually at work seemed more creative and fun. But almost half of the 2,245 executives said those casual dressers risk being taken less seriously.

However, if employees suit up, dressing more traditionally -- in business suits and skirts -- they were more likely to be perceived as being at a more senior level, according to the study. (And coincidentally less creative and more rigid.)

It's enough to make you cringe, that something as small as wearing flat shoes instead of heels or your oversize, gadgety watch can hold you back.

But it's more than just an image. When you're polished and professional at work, "It shows you know the rules. It says, 'I play by the rules,' " Gustafson said. "The decision is almost always made in the first few minutes. If you look the part, you'll likely get the part."

Certainly, style and fashion are subjective, and sometimes, taste differences are subtle.

The trick is knowing basic rules about what is appropriate for which work settings.

"If you show up to an advertising agency in a traditional blue suit, that's going to work against you," she said.

The same is true if you show up at a conservative bank in a short skirt and open-toed shoes without pantyhose.

Once you know the look that's appropriate for your office, be consistent, experts say.

"When you have a consistent look, your co-workers expect you to act a certain way and look a certain way," said Kate Leser, owner of A Distinctive Image, an image and wardrobe consulting company in Raleigh. "If you don't, people won't know how to read you."

Women have it harder than men when it comes to image in the workplace. They might have the right clothes, but they are also judged on their hair and makeup. Leser said neglecting either is one of the biggest mistakes women make.

"You've got to keep updated, both men and women," Leser said. "Every few years, you should be changing your hair. If you want to stay ahead of the game, with everything moving so quickly, your image should move quickly, too."

When in doubt, watch how others who are successful in your office dress.

"People need to dress appropriately for the position they're aspiring to," said Deborah Fernandez, vice president of career transition consulting at Right Management in Raleigh. "So they need to take cues from the people they're aspiring to be."

Of course, not all offices subscribe to the "best-dressed wins" philosophy.

Terry Bradley, a manager of recruitment for research and development at GlaxoSmithKline, said it depends on the environment and culture of the company.

In her office, where she routinely interviews research scientists and chemists, casual dress is the norm, as it is for a growing number of offices.

She usually recommends that people stay clear of the blue suit and white shirt, for fear of them coming off as too rigid. Instead, they should strive for a professional look that's not too formal. "It's about being polished, and the way one carries themselves," she said.

 

Staff writer Samantha Smith can be reached at 829-4563 or samantha.smith@newsobserver.com.

Women/creative workplace

If you work in an environment where you need to be seen as creative and forward-thinking -- such as an advertising agency, media group or some technology companies -- you want to project a polished, professional and modern image.

This fitted beige suit (Votre Nom, $472), left, from Tyler House has traditional suiting lines, but with modern touches, including reverse stitching and a flared skirt. Pair it with a lace-trimmed camisole in black (or other "power" colors such as burgundy or navy). If a jacket seems too formal for your workplace, try an updated twin set with a skirt or pants.

Accessories

You can also show your sense of style with your shoes, such as these two-tone Stuart Weitzman sling-back pumps, (Main & Taylor, $265). They've got sass but are workplace appropriate.

Women/traditional workplace

If you work in a bank, insurance agency or any other more traditional workplace, you've got to play by the rules. Stick with classics, such as a black pantsuit (Macy's, $189.96) with a simple white or ivory blouse. Remember, you want to stand out for your work, not your style. "If what they're wearing is truly a distraction, I'm noticing the clothes rather than their skills," said Deborah Fernandez, vice president of career transition consulting at Right Management in Raleigh.

ACCESSORIES

* If you can hear your jewelry, don't wear it. "Leave the flashy, costumey jewelry at home," Gustafson said. When in doubt, wear simple gold hoop earrings and pearls.

* Stuart Weitzman's black pumps (Main & Taylor, $225) are practical and classic -- not frumpy or dated, perfect for a pantsuit or skirt. And they come in a tall or short heel.

* Pull the look together with an oversize Liz Claiborne handbag that doubles as a briefcase. (Macy's, $70)



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Hmm..Well, I think it's a true article. There are certain rules you should follow in certain types of workplaces. I don't think the outfit suggestions at the end are totally off. It's been true in my work experiences. Luckily for me, I work in a creative casual setting, so I can wear stuff more true to my personality. (Though honestly, I can say I've been slacking on appropriate attire because I do work in a causal environment, though everyone here does slack off in dress.) Also, I think dressing appropriately can boost a person's work confidence, because others will take notice if you look great, and that could be beneficial.

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OMG , the jewelry suggestions bore me to tears.

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Ah!  I knew I was missing a piece!  Here's the other part of the article:

What not to wear

Khakis and short-sleeve button-down shirts are comfortable and appropriate for a number of offices. But the look doesn't say "promote me." To stay casual, just go darker. "Dark colors are considered more professional, more sophisticated, more powerful," said Kate Leser, owner of A Distinctive Image, an image and wardrobe consulting company in Raleigh.

Accessories

Leave the flip-flops and athletic shoes -- even the modern, more dressy sneakers -- at home.

A pink, floral print dress with a matching cardigan is perfect for a baby shower or a cookout -- but not for women trying to get ahead. Pinks and pastels should be avoided at work, said Carolyn Gustafson, owner of Image Strategy for Men & Women in Cary. "Pastels make women seem meek," she said. "We dress little girls in pink." Bright red also comes with issues. Some see it as a confident, energetic color, but others might consider it a vain choice.

Accessories

Flats might be one of the hottest shoe trends, but at work they can seem girly, Gustafson said. Try wearing at least a little heel, because women with more height are perceived as more powerful. But don't wear heels that are too high. It could cheapen your look.



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Subwolley, I totally agree with you that image does matter.

I guess my peeve is all the "rules" they stuck in the article. I guess I get irritated that according to the "rules" we should all be dressing in black, navy, cream, and white with our pearls and gold hoop earrings. And according to the article, we're not supposed to wear flats because it's "too girly" but high heels make us look like whores.

I don't know. There is something to be said for projecting a good image at work, but the idea that we're supposed to limit creativity and instead wear a totally boring uniform to work really irritates me.

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Oh my goodness - no pink? no red? no FLATS??? That is the stupidest advice EVER!

And the whole part about navy, burgandy and black being "power colors" was just hilarious.

ETA: it also drives me crazy when articles like this contradict themselves - dress casual/dress formally, be subdued/stand out, dress for the job you want/don't upstage the boss!  WTH?

-- Edited by jj at 19:02, 2007-06-25

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I see what your saying, that does suck that the color choices are limited. Though, I don't see too many people in the business world, say wall street or the government for example, experimenting with color combos. I think it just depends on where you work and what you do for a living. Obviously these rules don't apply to every place.

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this kate leser is the fashion equivalent of body-language professionals.  "look how she's TURNING AWAY from her BF. they're going to break up ANY MINUTE NOW."  and the phrase "power colors" shouldn't be used in any context.

this is such a maddeningly stupid article.  it just points out the obvious (image is important!), and then designates arbitrary choices as rules.  i'm surprised the article wasn't accompanied by a color chart or outright say "you must wear 2.3333 - 2.6667 inch heels, lest you appear unprofessional."

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I'm actually in a weird spot right now where 90% of the time I dress up much more for work than the lead designer I work with (who wears t-shirts, jeans, and either flip flops or sneakers depending on the weather) or my boss, who is the OWNER of the company, and who I have seen go to meet clients in sweats. They actually often comment on how dressed up I am, and initially it made me uncomfortable because I was afraid that, in comparison with them, I looked like I was trying way too hard. But I think it's worth the risk of overdressing, for me personally, because I am fairly new to the company and the industry, and I look young, so anything I can do to convey authority and professionalism is helpful!

Her recommendations for creative workplaces are still waaaay too formal, I think... a "modern" suit? A twinset?

I have to say, though, that blurb about flats looking "girly" is the most idiotic part about the article. It's the style of the shoe that conveys something like that, not the heel height!

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I understand their point,but basically I think you just need to feel out what is appropriate by what kind of office/profession you work in.
Some parts did strike me as a little sexist too,like that fact you should wear heels.weirdface

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Ugh! While I agree that image matters, I think they've gone down the wrong path here. I think the main thing is that your dressed appropriately and in a way that flatters your figure.

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this article is annoying. I think there's two things at hand.

* the suggestions are terrible themselves. the creative one is definitely way too formal/boring for a creative office. I've never worked in an environment any more formal than creative business casual. My superiors always admired my style and the risks I would take. Also, when I was working with clients, it was a great ice breaker to talk about x item, but then I'd segue into discussing contracts from that.

* my job allows me to dress like a slob (NOT that I would, but it's casual) AND I make more than most of the more formally dressed people I report to in corporate. Successful, well-paying jobs are not always jobs done by "suits". I have to say, now that I work in TV/Film production, if I went to work in a suit or a twinset I'd probably get laughed off the lot. The uniform here is t-shirt/jeans/sneakers because it makes sense (I'm not going to be the one tripping over the wires running all over the stage because I have on 2.66 in heels).






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Yikes!  I respectfully disagree about the colors.  I'm a government lawyer, and I wear tons of pink.  I wear peeptoes.  I don't always wear nylons with skirts in the summer...

Granted, I don't do things like that at court or a client meeting but day to day in my fairly conservative office people are too busy working to focus on clothing. 

I like looking at what other people wear, and I appreciate nice clothing at the office.  I really think most people do just fine on their own.  That said, I work in Los Angeles, which is inherently more relaxed than most other places!



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It is way too generalized. I personally have never worked in an office where I would follow these guidelines (besides the obvious "don't wear flip flops or revealing tops"). And it is all stuff I've heard before. Did the author of this article actually think she was writing something new? Why would someone publish this article? This article infuriates me, too, just because I can't believe someone can get something so unoriginal published.

Here's what I think. When dressing for work, you should abide by the guidelines set forth by human resources and keep an eye on what your co-workers do and don't wear for additional guidance. And then put your own style into it. I think it's that simple: if your co-workers wear suits every day, you should, too. If people are more casual, it is okay for you to be, too. And if everyone wears twinsets, you should find another job (only half-kidding).

Also, if you don't get promoted because you dress better than your boss or don't wear high heels, that is a human resource violation, not something you should accept (although I guess there really is no way to know that was the reason you weren't promoted).

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Don't forget to wear hosiery ladies!  Now go get that promotion!

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I think the article is too dated and old fashioned. Sounds like my grandma wrote it. I do believe that darker colors are taken more seriously (would you really want to wear a lime suit?). I am totally a believer in not wearing noisey jewelry to work as well. 

P.S. Speaking of work faux pas...  This week alone, I saw someone at work in a light colored crochet mini dress without a slip underneath.. I could clearly see her cheeks and black thong through her dress.  Also this morning someone was wearing a brocade pink mini skirt that hit her above mid thigh... with metallic pink strappy sandals.   These women trying to get someone to go home with them or what?

-- Edited by XtinaStyles at 17:43, 2007-06-26

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