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Hermes

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In just about two weeks now (!!!) I'll have my very first yard of my own. I'm pretty good when it comes to interior decorating, but frankly am clueless when it comes to outside.

I want to make the back a nice place to hang out- especially since the weather is just starting to get nice and being outside is fun again. wink.gif Any ideas on how to make the yard a relaxing, pretty, fun place to be? We don't have any kids, so no need for any of that stuff...

For reference, the yard is about 25' wide by 200' deep and gets afternoon sun.
Small shed at the back fence and deck at the front (off the back of the house), small pine tree (about the size of a large christmas tree) about 1/3 of the way down, slightly off center.

Its actually a pretty good amount of space, but the shapr of it really throw me off when trying to figure out how best to make use of it. The only thing I do know that I want is a space to put some planters with vegetables (I dont think the soil will be good for them)

ETA: the house is about 100 years old (plain victorian/ detatched rowhouse type if that makes any sense) and we plan to keep things fairly historically accurate, so nothng too modern. My style leans toward the formal side.

-- Edited by ILoveChoo at 10:07, 2007-05-12

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Chanel

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I'd get outdoor furniture so you can enjoy your yard. 
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Better Homes & Gardens® Mika Ridge 3-Piece Cafe SetBetter Homes & Gardens® Spice Bay 4-piece Conversation Set
Better Homes & Gardens® Mika Ridge 5-Piece Dining Set

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I love having a yard and talking about plants.  I find plants fascinating.  And if you're good at interior design, you'll be fine at making your yard beautiful too--it's actually not that different.  You want to keep in mind color, texture and scale, like you do in any room. 

I'm very partial to perennials because they come back year after year and many of them spread as they age and start to fill in the garden nicely.  Some of them will completely die in the winter, but then spring comes and they just pop back up like nothing ever happened!  I have a shady yard, so the perennials I've planted are shade-loving plants, like columbine, coral bells, persicaria, hostas, lily of the valley, ferns, and some other random shade loving plants.  On occasion, I'll fill in some of the gaps with annuals like pansies or impatiens.  I also have rhodadendrons and azaleas in the front because they're green year-round.  On our deck, I have big pots full of rosemary, sage, thyme, basil, and tomatoes because that's where the sun hits and veggies and herbs love sun.

Anyway, find out where the sun hits and where it's shady all the time and plan accordingly.  In the sunny areas, plant your veggies and other sun-loving plants.  Home Depot and Lowes are great for veggies and other annuals, but I've found that they don't have a very wide selection of perennials.  If you have a local garden center, find someone there and they'll be able to help you since they'll know the climate well.  Local garden stores are a bit more expensive, but IMO, they're worth it. 

Here's a sample of some of the plants I have in the yard.  You'll notice that there's a variety of color and texture, even when the flowers aren't blooming.

Persicaria:Persicaria, Red Dragon

Hosta:Hosta, Twilight
Bleeding Heart:  Bleeding Heart, Pink Dwarf

Lily of the Valley:
Lily-of-the-Valley
Foxglove: Foxglove, Mixed
Strawberry Begonia: saxifraga.jpg
Columbine: Columbine, Mixed

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Hermes

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Congrats on your new yard biggrin.gif!

I second NCshopper about buying locally when you can - the independant garden centers know alot more about gardening/plants in general and if you can find a place that grows on-site in your area the plants are much better adapted and healthier. 

We're kind of starting from scratch with our yard right now too, so I apologize for the blind leading the blind wink.gif!

Watch how the sun moves across your property so you can determine what areas need shade, part-shade, or sun loving plants.  Start researching and writing down plants you like for each area.  But really it's probably best to start with the bigger stuff - trees and shrubs - and then fill in with perennials and annuals and bulbs, etc.  That way you have some structure to build on.  See if you can get a mixture of things that are evergreen, herbacious, and deciduous (sp?) so still have something to look at in the winter months.  Then I like to mix color, texture, bloom times/colors, etc all around.  I really like high-contrast plantings, so I just potted up chartreuse and deep purple potato vines for my front hanging baskets this year - just do things you like.  If you plant something and need to move it later, move it later!  It's all trial and error, even for the most experienced of gardeners .....

From my meager experience, herbs, tomatoes, and strawberries usually do awesome in containers.   But when you plant anything out in the yard mix a bunch of compost into each planting hole.  It feeds the plant like fertilizer would, but it also enriches the soil long-term.

Just work on the borders that run th perimeter of your yard/deck and stuff for now, and then worry about filling things in later.  Here's some easy care stuff that comes to mind when I hear 'formal' and 'victorian' .....

lavender_rebecca_kay.jpgLavender{E9C24D9E-93D2-4E07-BFA9-FB55BE2CF963}.jpgClimbing rose
TrueDwarfBoxwood.jpgBoxwoodMy%20Fav6.jpgFoxglove
Hydrangea1.jpgHydrangeairis.jpgIris
luoyang-white.peony-pure.jpgPeony
CamelliaDESK.jpgCamellia
pink%20iceplant.jpgPink iceplant (groundcover)
cthyme4.jpgCreeping Thyme (groundcover)

Or maybe a knot garden, eventually?
http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/gl_design_other/article/0,1785,HGTV_3566_4747090,00.html

-- Edited by Elle at 10:50, 2007-05-14

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This is awesome. Congrats!

I don't know what region you live in, but I just heard someone on a gardening show give an analogy that maybe you'll appreciate: the trees are the walls, the shrubs are the big pieces of furniture - like the armoire with the TV that you could move but you probably won't - and the perennials are the pillows, chairs, accessories, etc.

Like decorating/renovating, you may decide to do things differently based on if this is your "forever house" versus only staying a couple of years. That matters if, for example, you're uninclined to keep a lot of lawn area since you don't have kids who need a place to play soccer. But if you think you'll sell in five years, bear in mind that other people might want an expansive lawn for their kids. Or you may love Japanese maples, but if you won't be around to see an expensive specimen mature, you probably want to keep the maple in a big container and plant something that gives more short-term gratification. And so on.

Also like interiors, we've found that our tastes have changed a bit since we began gardening in earnest so we've done and undone things a lot. Things can always be moved so don't be freaked about planting. DH is a part-time landscape designer so I'm also beholden to his whims and fancies, and we keep a bunch of stuff in pots until we can agree on where to put it. (He's the plant lover and I'm the one who's into structures, hardscaping, fences, walls, irrigation, fountains, birdbaths, seating, trellises, pergolas, etc. So in my opinion only one must start with the rocks and the posts and the cement and the pipes/sprinklers and all the stuff that I like, and then plants come later!)

But really you're halfway there by just figuring out how you want to use this new space and what your needs are. Envision it and plan accordingly. Think about night versus day, summer versus winter, weekend versus weekday, and so on. You say you want hangout space, for example, so you probably want great smells, sounds, and pretty things to look at in the spots you plan on using for hanging out. Or maybe you want to be able to bring flowers into the house all the time, so you'll keep that in mind when you're making plans or shopping for plants.

Regarding vegetables, they mostly need all-day sun, and the closer they are to the house/kitchen the better off you are. Unfortunately vegetable gardens often aren't that attractive even in raised beds, so think about some sort of separation like a low fence with a gate and pretty climbing roses to delineate the space. I hear you about the soil, so rather than plant right away you may want to work on the soil first, so that you can go for broke next spring. Composting pays off in too many ways to count!

I would also sign up for a bunch of gardening catalogs (Wayside is my favorite) and start making wish lists.





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What about adding a pergola? It would make for a lovely area under which to relax, and something like a wisteria vine growing up it would be beautiful, and in keeping with the feel of the home. I hope to add a pergola this year if our fence doesn't run too much!

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I just wanted to say congrats! That must be so exciting, yay!

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Hermes

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thanks girls. This is all really helpful and I'm starting to get some ideas. I LOVE soem of the flowers that you posted...I'll have to look into them and see if they'll work by us.

I want to keep the space fairly open since we do want to have kids (and a dog wink.gif) but now I'm picturing flowering bushes along the sides and then a nice bed of flowers at the back...maybe with a bench and a birdbath or something (Maybe I'll go the route of a butterfly garden).

We'll do patio furniture, but that'll go on the deck.

Depending on sun, veggies will be in pots either on the back deck (right off the kitchen) or on the front porch.

oh, and maybe a hammock....

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